XPost: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.taoism   
   From: niunian@ymail.com   
      
   On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 16:56:01 -0700, {:-]))) wrote:   
      
   > niunian wrote:   
   >   
   >> I think using non-dual to describe faith is   
   >>inappropriate. There is no such thing as unity as far as faith is   
   >>concerned. The original Chinese text meant to say that faith is   
   >>undivided loyalty. There is nothing about unity or wholeness when   
   >>talking about faith.   
   >   
   > Undivided suggests, to me, undivided.   
   > Not divided. Not two. Unified.   
   >   
   > Loyalty is another layer.   
   >   
   > Not being able to read the original Chinese,   
   > and not knowing the passage in question,   
   > I have no idea what loyalty is referring to.   
      
   The word for word English translation found in Mr. Ned's link says:   
      
   "Faith in mind is non-dual".   
      
   The funny thing is, for Chinese, when translated word for word, it often   
   brings confusion.   
      
   >   
   > Loyalty can suggest being loyal to an other.   
   >   
   > However, if one's faith is whole, one's eye single, and one is loyal to   
   > that faith, then perhaps it fits.   
   >   
   > Being loyal to the Uncarved Block. Tao.   
   >   
   > As was Cook Ting.   
   > Hence, his knife stayed sharp.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)