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   Tang Huyen to brian mitchell   
   Re: question for Tang   
   15 Aug 15 12:19:37   
   
   XPost: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy   
   From: tanghuyen@gmail.com   
      
   On 8/14/2015 3:40 PM, brian mitchell wrote:   
      
   > Tang Huyen:   
      
   >> The sublation   
   >> of mental proliferation...   
      
   > ps: not being familiar with the word 'sublation' I   
   > looked it up. It seems to carry two meanings: to   
   > deny or negate; and to raise to --or absorb into--   
   > a higher level or state. Interesting word. Are   
   > you using one or both of these meanings? (be   
   > truthful now)   
      
   The expression as a whole is a translation of how the   
   Buddha defines Nirvana in Pali: the calming of all   
   compositions (sabba-sankhara-samatho). It also translates   
   the later famous expression sarva-prapańca-upashama, which   
   means the same thing: the quiescence of all mental   
   proliferation.   
      
   However there are two passes: in the first pass, mental   
   proliferation is quiesced/stopped/ceased/calmed, in the   
   second pass it is allowed but is seen through, therefore   
   no longer constitutes an obstacle, and is a good servant   
   and not a bad master. It is a mediation that transcends   
   itself and suppresses itself (Hegel: die sich selbst   
   aufhebende Vermittlung). That is the meaning of the Raft.   
      
   It is to be noted that when mental proliferation is   
   quiesced/stopped/ceased/calmed, it is so without force,   
   as force would be its contrary.   
      
   Tang Huyen   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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