XPost: alt.philosophy.taoism, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy   
   From: wudao@wuji.net   
      
   Tang wrote:   
   > brian mitchell wrote:   
   >   
   >> The link between nonduality and compassion feels solid, but   
   >> I don't know how active and constructive that compassion   
   >> has to be. As with most things, there's probably a range,   
   >> from the purely apperceptive to getting involved with bricks   
   >> and mortar.   
   >   
   ><to feel with another or others. In your simple Tat Vam Asi   
   >modality, is there any element of feeling? I'm not speaking   
   >about emotions here, but something that goes deeper than   
   >just seeing or cognising; something that penetrates the   
   >existential skin?>>   
   >   
   >The following is only my opinion, and nothing more.   
   >The Spinozan intellectual love of the world entails   
   >no compassion, just a Stoic feeling of the harmony   
   >of the universe, in the abstract. The idea of the   
   >individual awakening and not bothering about others   
   >is accepted in Buddhism and Jainism, and probably is   
   >a concept/word that precedes both of them in India   
   >(pacceka-buddha). Awakening would then belong purely   
   >to seeing or cognising, and not something that   
   >penetrates the existential skin. (Even then, it could   
   >be argued that others, who contribute to the survival   
   >of such people, for example by offering food, as in   
   >India, would benefit from such contact, merely from   
   >the good feeling, however generated, as in learning   
   >by examples.)   
      
   Width in a Hindu paradigm can be dealt   
   at length to various degrees, as a well in depth.   
      
   The Self, being Being, at times, forms as forms   
   take shape and multiply. When One awakens   
   and Realization of how gold is gold, no matter how   
   gold is shaped, how ever it changes, One remains.   
      
   In the Play (lila) of Great Drama (maya), the Self   
   is at times compassionate and at times ruthless.   
      
   Without-compassion, without-humaneness, ren/jen,   
   a Taoist Sage goes without going about the land   
   while being a Being in Nonbeing, without a mind,   
   without a self, wuxin, wuji, apophatic.   
      
   Water is of a similar Virtue.   
      
   Its power is to nurture, and evaporate,   
   without a care, in the World, oar a Universe,   
   as drops in a bucket, rivers of thought flow.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)