XPost: alt.philosophy.taoism, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy   
   From: cuddly@mindless.com   
      
   On 10/14/2015 4:40 PM, Tang Huyen wrote:   
   > On 10/12/2015 4:14 PM, brian mitchell wrote:   
   >   
   >> The link between nonduality and compassion feels solid, but   
   >> I don't know how active and constructive that compassion   
   >> has to be. As with most things, there's probably a range,   
   >> from the purely apperceptive to getting involved with bricks   
   >> and mortar.   
   >   
   > < to feel with another or others. In your simple Tat Vam Asi   
   > modality, is there any element of feeling? I'm not speaking   
   > about emotions here, but something that goes deeper than   
   > just seeing or cognising; something that penetrates the   
   > existential skin?>>   
   >   
   > The following is only my opinion, and nothing more.   
   > The Spinozan intellectual love of the world entails   
   > no compassion, just a Stoic feeling of the harmony   
   > of the universe, in the abstract. The idea of the   
   > individual awakening and not bothering about others   
   > is accepted in Buddhism and Jainism, and probably is   
   > a concept/word that precedes both of them in India   
   > (pacceka-buddha). Awakening would then belong purely   
   > to seeing or cognising, and not something that   
   > penetrates the existential skin. (Even then, it could   
   > be argued that others, who contribute to the survival   
   > of such people, for example by offering food, as in   
   > India, would benefit from such contact, merely from   
   > the good feeling, however generated, as in learning   
   > by examples.)   
   >   
   > Tang Huyen   
      
      
   If I may return to my earlier post about human awareness   
   being a mutation level different from the awareness observed   
   in animals.  The best of us are aware of our own awareness   
   (some aren't, or have not developed the faculty), and some   
   of us make quite a sport of it.  We observe, judge, converse   
   between awareness-es.  The Buddhist practice of mindfulness   
   seems designed to enhance this mental phenomenon.  When hungry,   
   be aware of being hungry. Be aware when angry, mentally   
   stressed, enslaved by whatever mental preoccupation.   
   In so doing... in being thus self aware, a human awareness   
   leads inevitably (imho) to awareness of the mental states of   
   other humans.  This is compassion.  We who aren't ruffians   
   commiserate with the fate of others.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)