XPost: alt.philosophy.taoism, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy   
   From: cuddly@mindless.com   
      
   On 10/15/2015 8:13 AM, x wrote:   
   > On 10/15/15 07:40, liaM wrote:   
   >> On 10/15/2015 12:53 AM, x wrote:   
   >>> On 10/15/15 03:33, liaM wrote:   
   >>>> On 10/14/2015 4:40 PM, Tang Huyen wrote:   
   >>>>> On 10/12/2015 4:14 PM, brian mitchell wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> The link between nonduality and compassion feels solid, but   
   >>>>>> I don't know how active and constructive that compassion   
   >>>>>> has to be. As with most things, there's probably a range,   
   >>>>>> from the purely apperceptive to getting involved with bricks   
   >>>>>> and mortar.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> <>>>> to feel with another or others. In your simple Tat Vam Asi   
   >>>>> modality, is there any element of feeling? I'm not speaking   
   >>>>> about emotions here, but something that goes deeper than   
   >>>>> just seeing or cognising; something that penetrates the   
   >>>>> existential skin?>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> The following is only my opinion, and nothing more.   
   >>>>> The Spinozan intellectual love of the world entails   
   >>>>> no compassion, just a Stoic feeling of the harmony   
   >>>>> of the universe, in the abstract. The idea of the   
   >>>>> individual awakening and not bothering about others   
   >>>>> is accepted in Buddhism and Jainism, and probably is   
   >>>>> a concept/word that precedes both of them in India   
   >>>>> (pacceka-buddha). Awakening would then belong purely   
   >>>>> to seeing or cognising, and not something that   
   >>>>> penetrates the existential skin. (Even then, it could   
   >>>>> be argued that others, who contribute to the survival   
   >>>>> of such people, for example by offering food, as in   
   >>>>> India, would benefit from such contact, merely from   
   >>>>> the good feeling, however generated, as in learning   
   >>>>> by examples.)   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Tang Huyen   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> If I may return to my earlier post about human awareness   
   >>>> being a mutation level different from the awareness observed   
   >>>> in animals.  The best of us are aware of our own awareness   
   >>>> (some aren't, or have not developed the faculty), and some   
   >>>> of us make quite a sport of it.  We observe, judge, converse   
   >>>> between awareness-es.  The Buddhist practice of mindfulness   
   >>>> seems designed to enhance this mental phenomenon.  When hungry,   
   >>>> be aware of being hungry. Be aware when angry, mentally   
   >>>> stressed, enslaved by whatever mental preoccupation.   
   >>>> In so doing... in being thus self aware, a human awareness   
   >>>> leads inevitably (imho) to awareness of the mental states of   
   >>>> other humans.  This is compassion.  We who aren't ruffians   
   >>>> commiserate with the fate of others.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> cruel bitches have awareness, emotional sensitivity towards others, but   
   >>> they use that to cut where they know it will hurt most. so different to   
   >>> compassion yet both originating from the same ultra sensitive awareness.   
   >>   
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   >> So what do you think is going on ?   
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   > personal differences?   
      
      
   ignorance and insensitivity   
      
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