XPost: alt.philosophy.taoism, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy
From: cuddly@mindless.com
On 10/15/2015 6:42 PM, x wrote:
> On 10/16/15 00:32, x wrote:
>> On 10/15/15 23:56, liaM wrote:
>>> On 10/15/2015 8:13 AM, x wrote:
>>>> On 10/15/15 07:40, liaM wrote:
>>>>> On 10/15/2015 12:53 AM, x wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/15/15 03:33, liaM wrote:
>>>>>>> On 10/14/2015 4:40 PM, Tang Huyen wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 10/12/2015 4:14 PM, brian mitchell wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The link between nonduality and compassion feels solid, but
>>>>>>>>> I don't know how active and constructive that compassion
>>>>>>>>> has to be. As with most things, there's probably a range,
>>>>>>>>> from the purely apperceptive to getting involved with bricks
>>>>>>>>> and mortar.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <>>>>>>> to feel with another or others. In your simple Tat Vam Asi
>>>>>>>> modality, is there any element of feeling? I'm not speaking
>>>>>>>> about emotions here, but something that goes deeper than
>>>>>>>> just seeing or cognising; something that penetrates the
>>>>>>>> existential skin?>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The following is only my opinion, and nothing more.
>>>>>>>> The Spinozan intellectual love of the world entails
>>>>>>>> no compassion, just a Stoic feeling of the harmony
>>>>>>>> of the universe, in the abstract. The idea of the
>>>>>>>> individual awakening and not bothering about others
>>>>>>>> is accepted in Buddhism and Jainism, and probably is
>>>>>>>> a concept/word that precedes both of them in India
>>>>>>>> (pacceka-buddha). Awakening would then belong purely
>>>>>>>> to seeing or cognising, and not something that
>>>>>>>> penetrates the existential skin. (Even then, it could
>>>>>>>> be argued that others, who contribute to the survival
>>>>>>>> of such people, for example by offering food, as in
>>>>>>>> India, would benefit from such contact, merely from
>>>>>>>> the good feeling, however generated, as in learning
>>>>>>>> by examples.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tang Huyen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If I may return to my earlier post about human awareness
>>>>>>> being a mutation level different from the awareness observed
>>>>>>> in animals. The best of us are aware of our own awareness
>>>>>>> (some aren't, or have not developed the faculty), and some
>>>>>>> of us make quite a sport of it. We observe, judge, converse
>>>>>>> between awareness-es. The Buddhist practice of mindfulness
>>>>>>> seems designed to enhance this mental phenomenon. When hungry,
>>>>>>> be aware of being hungry. Be aware when angry, mentally
>>>>>>> stressed, enslaved by whatever mental preoccupation.
>>>>>>> In so doing... in being thus self aware, a human awareness
>>>>>>> leads inevitably (imho) to awareness of the mental states of
>>>>>>> other humans. This is compassion. We who aren't ruffians
>>>>>>> commiserate with the fate of others.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cruel bitches have awareness, emotional sensitivity towards others,
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> they use that to cut where they know it will hurt most. so
>>>>>> different to
>>>>>> compassion yet both originating from the same ultra sensitive
>>>>>> awareness.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So what do you think is going on ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> personal differences?
>>>
>>>
>>> ignorance and insensitivity
>>>
>>
>> u mad?
>
> mad god dam dog
YUou're a bit like poor Prince Hal in Shakespeare's King Henry the IVth,
who are like a sun that lets himself be obscure bay "base and contagious
clouds". Here's hoping your sky clears up, eh, or do you need a
tragedy... your father to die, to wake the son in you?
--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)
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