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"liaM" wrote in message news:mvp1p4$l83$1@dont-email.me...
On 10/15/2015 6:32 PM, x wrote:
> On 10/15/15 23:56, liaM wrote:
>> On 10/15/2015 8:13 AM, x wrote:
>>> On 10/15/15 07:40, liaM wrote:
>>>> On 10/15/2015 12:53 AM, x wrote:
>>>>> On 10/15/15 03:33, liaM wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/14/2015 4:40 PM, Tang Huyen wrote:
>>>>>>> On 10/12/2015 4:14 PM, brian mitchell wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The link between nonduality and compassion feels solid, but
>>>>>>>> I don't know how active and constructive that compassion
>>>>>>>> has to be. As with most things, there's probably a range,
>>>>>>>> from the purely apperceptive to getting involved with bricks
>>>>>>>> and mortar.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <>>>>>> to feel with another or others. In your simple Tat Vam Asi
>>>>>>> modality, is there any element of feeling? I'm not speaking
>>>>>>> about emotions here, but something that goes deeper than
>>>>>>> just seeing or cognising; something that penetrates the
>>>>>>> existential skin?>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The following is only my opinion, and nothing more.
>>>>>>> The Spinozan intellectual love of the world entails
>>>>>>> no compassion, just a Stoic feeling of the harmony
>>>>>>> of the universe, in the abstract. The idea of the
>>>>>>> individual awakening and not bothering about others
>>>>>>> is accepted in Buddhism and Jainism, and probably is
>>>>>>> a concept/word that precedes both of them in India
>>>>>>> (pacceka-buddha). Awakening would then belong purely
>>>>>>> to seeing or cognising, and not something that
>>>>>>> penetrates the existential skin. (Even then, it could
>>>>>>> be argued that others, who contribute to the survival
>>>>>>> of such people, for example by offering food, as in
>>>>>>> India, would benefit from such contact, merely from
>>>>>>> the good feeling, however generated, as in learning
>>>>>>> by examples.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tang Huyen
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I may return to my earlier post about human awareness
>>>>>> being a mutation level different from the awareness observed
>>>>>> in animals. The best of us are aware of our own awareness
>>>>>> (some aren't, or have not developed the faculty), and some
>>>>>> of us make quite a sport of it. We observe, judge, converse
>>>>>> between awareness-es. The Buddhist practice of mindfulness
>>>>>> seems designed to enhance this mental phenomenon. When hungry,
>>>>>> be aware of being hungry. Be aware when angry, mentally
>>>>>> stressed, enslaved by whatever mental preoccupation.
>>>>>> In so doing... in being thus self aware, a human awareness
>>>>>> leads inevitably (imho) to awareness of the mental states of
>>>>>> other humans. This is compassion. We who aren't ruffians
>>>>>> commiserate with the fate of others.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> cruel bitches have awareness, emotional sensitivity towards others,
>>>>> but
>>>>> they use that to cut where they know it will hurt most. so
>>>>> different to
>>>>> compassion yet both originating from the same ultra sensitive
>>>>> awareness.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So what do you think is going on ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> personal differences?
>>
>>
>> ignorance and insensitivity
>>
>
> u mad?
>>as it is, awareness of threats and/or points to be scored, of maiming,
>>killing, etc. belongs to the lower realms (in the Tibetan cosmogony)
>>i.e. hell fiends or animals. It's not exactly the awareness of one's
>>awareness that leads to compassion.
There are certain kinds of mental health issues that make it impossible for
some to understand you on the level you're offering. There is a kindness in
your trying though.
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