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   djinn  wrote:   
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   > "noname"  wrote in message news:nndfs4$i5b$4@dont-email.me...   
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   > djinn  wrote:   
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   >> "Tang Huyen"  wrote in message   
   >> news:df347665-0d3e-d6a0-68ac-92782d6de188@gmail.com...   
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   >> On 7/28/2016 6:42 AM, djinn wrote:   
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   >>> "events flow forward"  ? you gotta do   
   >>> a little better than that. is there a back   
   >>> field perspective that is out of sync with   
   >>> event horizons such that you can position   
   >>> your view irrespective of present moment   
   >>> subsequence or consequence?   
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   >> <> with event horizons such that you can position   
   >> your view irrespective of present moment   
   >> subsequence or consequence>>   
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   >> Yep, just that is detachment and equability,   
   >> the bare consciousness that planes above all   
   >> happenings, even as it lets them in untouched.   
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   >> However, by that position, it abstains from   
   >> all positions and views, so that there is no   
   >> back and front, no self and world.   
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   >> Tang Huyen   
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   >> the no-state state, the absolute, the noumenon,   
   >> but unfortunately even "there is no back and   
   >> front, no self and world" still doesn't quite size   
   >> it up.   
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   >> it's why buddha said; "what and what they   
   >> think it...",  because thinking remains confined   
   >> to perspectives of phenomenon.   
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   > The thinker is always constrained to the evidential, the mind not so much,   
   > it infers from the evidential, and develops a view of what cannot be seen   
   > with eyes.   
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   > the mind's prowess is wholly dependent upon   
   > a perspective's ability to interact thusly. most   
   > perspectives stagnate at the level of word   
   > thinking and emotional feelings only. very   
   > rarely does any perspective get to the deeper   
   > aspects of cognition. when one does, they   
   > call him a buddha or a christ.   
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   You lost me early on, this time.   
   What the fuck does a mind need prowess for?   
   Prowess is only useful to subdue by force.   
   Only useful when you've already lost what you seek to win.   
   Winning, taking, forcing... that's masochism in disguise from its doer.   
      
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