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"Ned Ludd" wrote in message
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> "Ned Ludd" wrote in message
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> "Tang Huyen" wrote in message
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>> On 8/8/2016 9:22 AM, Ned Ludd wrote:
>>
>>> Never wrestle with a pig - you'll both get dirty
>>> and the pig will enjoy it.
>>
>> This saying was much invoked in the glory
>> years of TRB, ten or fifteen years ago. It
>> supposedly comes from George Bernard
>> Shaw.
>>
>> In theory (I say so because I am purely
>> extrapolating a priori, without any basis in
>> reality), a sage can play the pig, e. g., to
>> help awaken people, with impunity, for he
>> has abandoned self and
>> what-belong-to-self, treats everything and
>> everybody like clouds passing in the sky
>> or water sliding off a duck's back, and
>> uses such a trope in a selfless, salvific
>> manner, without any self-interest from his
>> side, so that he remains unblemished. In
>> a way, he merely uses it in the Soft Way
>> (柔道 rou-dao, Japanese Judo) to flip the
>> belligerent or at least obstinate persons
>> with their own ego (e. g., as manifested in
>> their pomposity and ego inflation) and
>> does not engage his own energy. It can
>> well be that the intended recipients
>> rarely or never "get" the message, but
>> who knows, some of them, or some
>> by-standers, can "click" and come to
>> sense, even from afar, by reading about
>> such an occurrence (which can get
>> recorded as "public case" 公案 gong-an
>> and "case" 則 ze in Chan).
>>
>> Tang Huyen
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>
> Pig-wrestling is a form of Tar-Baby Zen. Though the one great
> caveat of Tar-Baby Zen is that the longer the discussion continues,
> the higher the probability that YOU are not the Tar Baby. (Perhaps
> this could be expanded into a Law, or at least possibly a lemma of
> Godwin's Law.)
>
> "Unblemished"? Do you have something against dirt, Tang? Or
> zits? Getting in the mud, getting in the weeds, this is often the
> tactic of zen masters. I'm not sure your judo will work very well
> in a mud-wrestling contest. But I must say, you've definitely been
> in the mud for a longer stretch than I've ever seen.
>
> Ned
>
> THE BASIC TYPES OF ZEN
>
> Dork Zen - encouraging self-examination by slipping on a metaphorical
> banana
> peel.
> Stump Zen
> Couch Potato Zen
> Doormat Zen
> Baguette Zen and Tarte-à-la-crême Zen
> Black Hole Zen
> Zombie Zen
> Jackhammer Zen
> Sock-puppet Zen
> Vending-machine Zen
> Baby Huey Zen
> Tar-Baby Zen
> Teflon Zen
> Fire-poker Zen
> Fortune-cookie Zen
> Buji Zen
> Soto Zen
> Rinzai Zen
> Sanbo Kyodan Zen
> Beat Zen &
> Square Zen
> Ch'an -- Chinese Zen (heh!)
> Soen -- Korean Zen
> Thien -- Vietnamese Zen
> Diamond Sangha (Aitken)
> Pacific Zen Institute formerly California Diamond Sangha (Tarrant)
> White Plum Sangha (Mauzumi)
> International Zen Association (Deshimaru)
> Mountain and Rivers Order (Loori)
> Order of Buddist Contemplatives (Shasta Abbey -- Kennet)
> Affiliates of Rochester Zen Center (Kapleau)
>
> Dar:
> and the cologne
> the only zen worth the price
>
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>
> you missed one of the most prevalent
> forms of zen; beavis & butthead zen.
>
> I think it's on the list, under "Buji Zen".
they were like teflon. appearing to be
clueless, they wormed their way in and
out of all kinds of situations, not much
worse for the wear.
I think I've seen all of the episodes, even
the newer ones around 5 years ago, but I
don't think that they ever did get laid.
--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)
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