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   From: cuddly@mindless.com   
      
   On 8/24/2016 3:55 AM, pi wrote:   
   > On 2016-08-24 03:33, Tang Huyen wrote:   
   >> On 8/23/2016 5:58 PM, talishi wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> God sent himself to sacrifice himself to   
   >>> himself to save humans from himself.   
   >>> Makes perfect sense to me!   
   >>   
   >> One saves oneself from oneself by   
   >> getting beyond oneself and shedding   
   >> oneself, all in closed circle. Makes   
   >> perfect sense to me!   
   >>   
   >> Tang Huyen   
   >   
   > Just like you said except the circle is open so that you can circle out   
   > of yourself more and more.   
   >   
   > It's called the scientific method.   
   >   
   > pi   
      
      
   Read "The eye of the cyclone" for a scientist's view.   
   His cyclone is an outward evolving spiral of beliefs superseding   
   earlier versions, the scientific method being part of the   
   way forward (he started as a scientist researching communication   
   with other species, dolphins primarily; later he got interested   
   in LSD etc.   leading him to create his sensory deprivation tank - look   
   up Google for details, and last I heard, shamanism)   
      
   The spiral is a good representation of what happens in the   
   life of most of us.  We expand our knowledge, expand in feelings,   
   discrimination, taste, etc. Some of us, like Tang, reach   
   a state of avowed grace.  But I must wonder why the simile to   
   his state of grace is that of a closed circle.   Has the spiral   
   closed in on itself, is now fixed, in a stasis ?   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)