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   From: pi65478@gmail.com   
      
   On 2016-08-24 05:09, liaM wrote:   
   > On 8/24/2016 3:55 AM, pi wrote:   
   >> On 2016-08-24 03:33, Tang Huyen wrote:   
   >>> On 8/23/2016 5:58 PM, talishi wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> God sent himself to sacrifice himself to   
   >>>> himself to save humans from himself.   
   >>>> Makes perfect sense to me!   
   >>>   
   >>> One saves oneself from oneself by   
   >>> getting beyond oneself and shedding   
   >>> oneself, all in closed circle. Makes   
   >>> perfect sense to me!   
   >>>   
   >>> Tang Huyen   
   >>   
   >> Just like you said except the circle is open so that you can circle out   
   >> of yourself more and more.   
   >>   
   >> It's called the scientific method.   
   >>   
   >> pi   
   >   
   >   
   > Read "The eye of the cyclone" for a scientist's view.   
   > His cyclone is an outward evolving spiral of beliefs superseding   
   > earlier versions, the scientific method being part of the   
   > way forward (he started as a scientist researching communication   
   > with other species, dolphins primarily; later he got interested   
   > in LSD etc.   leading him to create his sensory deprivation tank - look   
   > up Google for details, and last I heard, shamanism)   
   >   
   > The spiral is a good representation of what happens in the   
   > life of most of us.  We expand our knowledge, expand in feelings,   
   > discrimination, taste, etc. Some of us, like Tang, reach   
   > a state of avowed grace.  But I must wonder why the simile to   
   > his state of grace is that of a closed circle.   Has the spiral   
   > closed in on itself, is now fixed, in a stasis ?   
      
   Truth in science can be defined as a working hypothesis best suited to   
   open the way to the next better one. -- Konrad Lorenz, ethologist   
      
   pi   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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