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   From: cuddly@mindless.com   
      
   On 8/24/2016 2:10 PM, pi wrote:   
   > On 2016-08-24 05:09, liaM wrote:   
   >> On 8/24/2016 3:55 AM, pi wrote:   
   >>> On 2016-08-24 03:33, Tang Huyen wrote:   
   >>>> On 8/23/2016 5:58 PM, talishi wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> God sent himself to sacrifice himself to   
   >>>>> himself to save humans from himself.   
   >>>>> Makes perfect sense to me!   
   >>>>   
   >>>> One saves oneself from oneself by   
   >>>> getting beyond oneself and shedding   
   >>>> oneself, all in closed circle. Makes   
   >>>> perfect sense to me!   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Tang Huyen   
   >>>   
   >>> Just like you said except the circle is open so that you can circle out   
   >>> of yourself more and more.   
   >>>   
   >>> It's called the scientific method.   
   >>>   
   >>> pi   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> Read "The eye of the cyclone" for a scientist's view.   
   >> His cyclone is an outward evolving spiral of beliefs superseding   
   >> earlier versions, the scientific method being part of the   
   >> way forward (he started as a scientist researching communication   
   >> with other species, dolphins primarily; later he got interested   
   >> in LSD etc.   leading him to create his sensory deprivation tank - look   
   >> up Google for details, and last I heard, shamanism)   
   >>   
   >> The spiral is a good representation of what happens in the   
   >> life of most of us.  We expand our knowledge, expand in feelings,   
   >> discrimination, taste, etc. Some of us, like Tang, reach   
   >> a state of avowed grace.  But I must wonder why the simile to   
   >> his state of grace is that of a closed circle.   Has the spiral   
   >> closed in on itself, is now fixed, in a stasis ?   
   >   
   > Truth in science can be defined as a working hypothesis best suited to   
   > open the way to the next better one. -- Konrad Lorenz, ethologist   
   >   
   > pi   
   >   
      
      
   Great quote.   
      
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