XPost: alt.philosophy.taoism, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.zen   
   From: pi65478@gmail.com   
      
   On 2016-08-24 16:33, liaM wrote:   
   > On 8/24/2016 2:10 PM, pi wrote:   
   >> On 2016-08-24 05:09, liaM wrote:   
   >>> On 8/24/2016 3:55 AM, pi wrote:   
   >>>> On 2016-08-24 03:33, Tang Huyen wrote:   
   >>>>> On 8/23/2016 5:58 PM, talishi wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> God sent himself to sacrifice himself to   
   >>>>>> himself to save humans from himself.   
   >>>>>> Makes perfect sense to me!   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> One saves oneself from oneself by   
   >>>>> getting beyond oneself and shedding   
   >>>>> oneself, all in closed circle. Makes   
   >>>>> perfect sense to me!   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Tang Huyen   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Just like you said except the circle is open so that you can circle out   
   >>>> of yourself more and more.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> It's called the scientific method.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> pi   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> Read "The eye of the cyclone" for a scientist's view.   
   >>> His cyclone is an outward evolving spiral of beliefs superseding   
   >>> earlier versions, the scientific method being part of the   
   >>> way forward (he started as a scientist researching communication   
   >>> with other species, dolphins primarily; later he got interested   
   >>> in LSD etc.   leading him to create his sensory deprivation tank - look   
   >>> up Google for details, and last I heard, shamanism)   
   >>>   
   >>> The spiral is a good representation of what happens in the   
   >>> life of most of us.  We expand our knowledge, expand in feelings,   
   >>> discrimination, taste, etc. Some of us, like Tang, reach   
   >>> a state of avowed grace.  But I must wonder why the simile to   
   >>> his state of grace is that of a closed circle.   Has the spiral   
   >>> closed in on itself, is now fixed, in a stasis ?   
   >>   
   >> Truth in science can be defined as a working hypothesis best suited to   
   >> open the way to the next better one. -- Konrad Lorenz, ethologist   
   >>   
   >> pi   
   >>   
   >   
   >   
   > Great quote.   
      
   In the words of Karl Popper:   
      
   "Good tests kill flawed theories. We remain alive to try again."   
      
   pi   
      
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