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   From: wudao@wuji.net   
      
   Tang wrote:   
   >On 8/24/2016 4:24 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >   
   >> A hint of what we don't understand:  we want mystical benefits,   
   >> whatever we conceive them to be, while remaining as we are.   
   >   
   >Again, to borrow from djinn from some years   
   >ago:   
   >   
   ><so to speak, you understand with full conviction   
   >that you are perfect, whole and complete as   
   >you are and you don't "need" anything. this is   
   >why when ramana maharshi got a big dose of   
   >awakening he just laid down in a cave and was   
   >willing to surrender even his life to his divine   
   >acumen until villagers fed him and built him an   
   >ashram so he could teach.>>   
   >   
   >Many practitioners of mental culture aspire to   
   >fancy mystical states or whatever, and scarcely   
   >understand that mental culture is to help them   
   >come to peace with themselves and reconcile   
   >with themselves, so that they don't need   
   >anything any more. They still have a body and   
   >still need to follow physical and social laws, but   
   >mystical states or whatever are frills that will   
   >come on the way but that will block the way if   
   >taken seriously.   
      
   Siddhis are said to be ignored along the Way.   
      
   Yet to put it as such sounds a bit as if static   
   electricity gets into the mix at the end of a tell.   
      
   It's possible that many mystics vanished.   
   They disappeared into the midst of the mist.   
      
   Transcending the material/physical worlds,   
   they flowered and dropped their skins.   
      
   For they no longer kneaded them.   
      
   Cling can be what static induces.   
      
   Perhaps a tuner can use some fine-tuning.   
      
   Then again, a Bodhisattva might be simply fine,   
   no matter how serious or light-hearted in time.   
      
   For the Great Awakening awaits and has   
   no weight to bring ones such as those down.   
      
   Back to earth is just as sound.   
   It makes no difference for many.   
      
   When they play their cards without any tells.   
   Their there is simply no telling.   
      
   Their here can be anywhere at all.   
   All in all. And their now is always the Present.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)