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   From: wudao@wuji.net   
      
   djinn wrote:   
      
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   >"Tang Huyen"  wrote in message   
   >news:8abc43ae-a635-ec39-916b-517b185bb50e@gmail.com...   
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   >On 8/24/2016 4:24 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
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   >> A hint of what we don't understand:  we want mystical benefits,   
   >> whatever we conceive them to be, while remaining as we are.   
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   >Again, to borrow from djinn from some years   
   >ago:   
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   ><so to speak, you understand with full conviction   
   >that you are perfect, whole and complete as   
   >you are and you don't "need" anything. this is   
   >why when ramana maharshi got a big dose of   
   >awakening he just laid down in a cave and was   
   >willing to surrender even his life to his divine   
   >acumen until villagers fed him and built him an   
   >ashram so he could teach.>>   
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   >Many practitioners of mental culture aspire to   
   >fancy mystical states or whatever, and scarcely   
   >understand that mental culture is to help them   
   >come to peace with themselves and reconcile   
   >with themselves, so that they don't need   
   >anything any more. They still have a body and   
   >still need to follow physical and social laws, but   
   >mystical states or whatever are frills that will   
   >come on the way but that will block the way if   
   >taken seriously.   
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   >Tang Huyen   
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   >patanjali said that the yoga siddhi   
   >powers were to be ignored   
      
   Quite often history repeats itself in advance.   
      
   People who have been on various paths   
   encounter vast intersections from first to last.   
      
   When at last one is first that too doesn't last.   
   For the two are no longer. Nor even oddly is one.   
      
   Cycles cycle and cyclists know their wheels.   
   How thirty spokes go when spoken.   
      
   And where an axle is to be found.   
      
   In the center is said to be a form.   
   A form of emptiness when put into words.   
      
   And, at times, beyond time, maps transform   
   what were words into a picture.   
      
   Thru a looking glass mirror is a house.   
   And throwing stones might break or unbreak a spell.   
      
   As various energies level seek   
   their own. Along the Way.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)