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   noname to wudao@wuji.net   
   Re: Peace (was Re: Deepak Chopra on Trum   
   25 Aug 16 14:22:59   
   
   XPost: alt.philosophy.taoism, alt.philosophy.zen, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy   
   From: invalid@invalid.invalid   
      
   {:-])))  wrote:   
   > brian wrote:   
   >> {:-]))) wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> Why can't paranormal activity be replicated in a lab?   
   >>   
   >> In the case of telepathy, part of the answer lies in the very phrase   
   >> you use, "paranormal activity". That, and the lab setting, are   
   >> attempts to isolate and objectify something that is by nature a form   
   >> of intimate responsive contact. The wrong key is being used is all.   
   >   
   > Akin to a quantum effect, prehaps,   
   > given by Young's double-slot-machine phenomena.   
   >   
   > When there are no, "detectors" involved, a wave-form   
   > appears to be how reality manifests on various levels.   
   > A quantum is able to move through openings simultaneously.   
   >   
   > When there is an attempt made to pin something down   
   > to an either/or type of situation, the phenomenon vanishes.   
   >   
   > Such a metaphor is less than ideal.   
   > Yet it might yield a hint. Thanks.   
   >   
   > Faraday shielding also came to mind.   
   > Trying to cage something in, cages it out.   
   >   
   > That phenomenon may apply on many levels.   
   >   
   > Explanations are interesting to me.   
   >   
   > Not all of them need to be scientific   
   > in order to be satisfying to the soul.   
   >   
   > - food   
   >   
      
   I had forgotten about the two-slit-experiment.   
      
   I think telepathy in the lab is a different deal though.   
      
   I think telepathy is only possible between individuals.  When a telepathic   
   individual becomes an experimental subject, the individual is set aside and   
   the person acts as an agent for the performance of the experiment.  Because   
   the person has set aside his individuality, any telepathic ability he might   
   have goes with it.   
      
   I'm not sure if telepathic ability only exists in some people, or in   
   everyone.  I suspect that it exists within everyone.  But like so much else   
   that is within us, being basically a fun-house mirror of everything outside   
   of us, as we are, telepathy is largely yelled down by the beliefs imposed   
   by our programmers.   
      
   Who are our programmers?  Why would they care to program us?  Follow the   
   money, it's what they're following.  It's why journalists write what they   
   think will win them the Nobel Prize in Journalism, and why they forget how   
   to be journalists, becoming yellow-sheet whores in their pursuit of fame   
   and wealth.   
      
   Why would anyone want to get out of the game?   
      
   Because it's rigged.  You are going to lose.   
      
   You can't win, you can't break even, and you can't get out of the game.   
      
   What do you do in that situation?   
      
   I remember what Billy said many decades ago, when we were riding up the   
   grapevine in his dad's Buick and the rods started knockin and rockin:   
   Ignore it, maybe it'll go away.  So Billy's dad let us turn up the radio   
   and the Buick made it all the way to wherever we were headed.   
      
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