XPost: alt.philosophy.taoism, alt.philosophy.zen, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy   
   From: wudao@wuji.net   
      
   noname wrote:   
   > {:-]))) wrote:   
   >> brian wrote:   
   >>> {:-]))) wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> Why can't paranormal activity be replicated in a lab?   
   >>>   
   >>> In the case of telepathy, part of the answer lies in the very phrase   
   >>> you use, "paranormal activity". That, and the lab setting, are   
   >>> attempts to isolate and objectify something that is by nature a form   
   >>> of intimate responsive contact. The wrong key is being used is all.   
   >>   
   >> Akin to a quantum effect, prehaps,   
   >> given by Young's double-slot-machine phenomena.   
   >>   
   >> When there are no, "detectors" involved, a wave-form   
   >> appears to be how reality manifests on various levels.   
   >> A quantum is able to move through openings simultaneously.   
   >>   
   >> When there is an attempt made to pin something down   
   >> to an either/or type of situation, the phenomenon vanishes.   
   >>   
   >> Such a metaphor is less than ideal.   
   >> Yet it might yield a hint. Thanks.   
   >>   
   >> Faraday shielding also came to mind.   
   >> Trying to cage something in, cages it out.   
   >>   
   >> That phenomenon may apply on many levels.   
   >>   
   >> Explanations are interesting to me.   
   >>   
   >> Not all of them need to be scientific   
   >> in order to be satisfying to the soul.   
   >>   
   >> - food   
   >>   
   >   
   >I had forgotten about the two-slit-experiment.   
   >   
   >I think telepathy in the lab is a different deal though.   
   >   
   >I think telepathy is only possible between individuals.  When a telepathic   
   >individual becomes an experimental subject, the individual is set aside and   
   >the person acts as an agent for the performance of the experiment.  Because   
   >the person has set aside his individuality, any telepathic ability he might   
   >have goes with it.   
      
   I am appreciating that scenario.   
      
   >I'm not sure if telepathic ability only exists in some people, or in   
   >everyone.  I suspect that it exists within everyone.  But like so much else   
   >that is within us, being basically a fun-house mirror of everything outside   
   >of us, as we are, telepathy is largely yelled down by the beliefs imposed   
   >by our programmers.   
      
   Consensus reality wins the day and rules.   
      
   In a greater sphere of things, without rules, without a stage,   
   with no props, there isn't much for the act to go on.   
      
   >Who are our programmers?  Why would they care to program us?  Follow the   
   >money, it's what they're following.   
      
   Well now, that sounds a bit unwell now.   
      
   Such a lesser sphere of the greatest of all greats   
   might not fly as far as the man over the trap with ease.   
      
   >  It's why journalists write what they   
   >think will win them the Nobel Prize in Journalism, and why they forget how   
   >to be journalists, becoming yellow-sheet whores in their pursuit of fame   
   >and wealth.   
   >   
   >Why would anyone want to get out of the game?   
   >   
   >Because it's rigged.  You are going to lose.   
   >   
   >You can't win, you can't break even, and you can't get out of the game.   
   >   
   >What do you do in that situation?   
      
   I sometimes see how it's an ego trip to be trapped.   
      
   A no-self paradigm can be adopted to undo the damage done   
   by the one who is caught up in the trap without ease   
   who trips over his or her own ego.   
      
   >I remember what Billy said many decades ago, when we were riding up the   
   >grapevine in his dad's Buick and the rods started knockin and rockin:   
   >Ignore it, maybe it'll go away.  So Billy's dad let us turn up the radio   
   >and the Buick made it all the way to wherever we were headed.   
      
   Reminds me of the hot rod Lincoln   
   that went out of San Pedro late one night.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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