XPost: alt.philosophy.taoism, alt.philosophy.zen, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy   
   From: daletx@gnusguy.com   
      
   On 8/25/2016 10:26 AM, {:-]))) wrote:   
   > noname wrote:   
   >> {:-]))) wrote:   
   >>> brian wrote:   
   >>>> {:-]))) wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> Why can't paranormal activity be replicated in a lab?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> In the case of telepathy, part of the answer lies in the very phrase   
   >>>> you use, "paranormal activity". That, and the lab setting, are   
   >>>> attempts to isolate and objectify something that is by nature a form   
   >>>> of intimate responsive contact. The wrong key is being used is all.   
   >>>   
   >>> Akin to a quantum effect, prehaps,   
   >>> given by Young's double-slot-machine phenomena.   
   >>>   
   >>> When there are no, "detectors" involved, a wave-form   
   >>> appears to be how reality manifests on various levels.   
   >>> A quantum is able to move through openings simultaneously.   
   >>>   
   >>> When there is an attempt made to pin something down   
   >>> to an either/or type of situation, the phenomenon vanishes.   
   >>>   
   >>> Such a metaphor is less than ideal.   
   >>> Yet it might yield a hint. Thanks.   
   >>>   
   >>> Faraday shielding also came to mind.   
   >>> Trying to cage something in, cages it out.   
   >>>   
   >>> That phenomenon may apply on many levels.   
   >>>   
   >>> Explanations are interesting to me.   
   >>>   
   >>> Not all of them need to be scientific   
   >>> in order to be satisfying to the soul.   
   >>>   
   >>> - food   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> I had forgotten about the two-slit-experiment.   
   >>   
   >> I think telepathy in the lab is a different deal though.   
   >>   
   >> I think telepathy is only possible between individuals.  When a telepathic   
   >> individual becomes an experimental subject, the individual is set aside and   
   >> the person acts as an agent for the performance of the experiment.  Because   
   >> the person has set aside his individuality, any telepathic ability he might   
   >> have goes with it.   
   >   
   > I am appreciating that scenario.   
   >   
   >> I'm not sure if telepathic ability only exists in some people, or in   
   >> everyone.  I suspect that it exists within everyone.  But like so much else   
   >> that is within us, being basically a fun-house mirror of everything outside   
   >> of us, as we are, telepathy is largely yelled down by the beliefs imposed   
   >> by our programmers.   
   >   
   > Consensus reality wins the day and rules.   
   >   
   > In a greater sphere of things, without rules, without a stage,   
   > with no props, there isn't much for the act to go on.   
   >   
   >> Who are our programmers?  Why would they care to program us?  Follow the   
   >> money, it's what they're following.   
   >   
   > Well now, that sounds a bit unwell now.   
   >   
   > Such a lesser sphere of the greatest of all greats   
   > might not fly as far as the man over the trap with ease.   
   >   
   >>  It's why journalists write what they   
   >> think will win them the Nobel Prize in Journalism, and why they forget how   
   >> to be journalists, becoming yellow-sheet whores in their pursuit of fame   
   >> and wealth.   
   >>   
   >> Why would anyone want to get out of the game?   
   >>   
   >> Because it's rigged.  You are going to lose.   
   >>   
   >> You can't win, you can't break even, and you can't get out of the game.   
   >>   
   >> What do you do in that situation?   
   >   
   > I sometimes see how it's an ego trip to be trapped.   
   >   
   > A no-self paradigm can be adopted to undo the damage done   
   > by the one who is caught up in the trap without ease   
   > who trips over his or her own ego.   
   >   
   >> I remember what Billy said many decades ago, when we were riding up the   
   >> grapevine in his dad's Buick and the rods started knockin and rockin:   
   >> Ignore it, maybe it'll go away.  So Billy's dad let us turn up the radio   
   >> and the Buick made it all the way to wherever we were headed.   
   >   
   > Reminds me of the hot rod Lincoln   
   > that went out of San Pedro late one night.   
      
   Slow down!  I see spots...   
      
   DT   
      
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