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   From: meanmrmustard@gmail.com   
      
   "daletx"  wrote in message news:nppvmu14a8@news7.newsguy.com...   
      
   On 8/25/2016 2:06 PM, djinn wrote:   
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   >   
   > "daletx"  wrote in message news:npnbda21a0c@news7.newsguy.com...   
   >   
   > On 8/25/2016 10:26 AM, {:-]))) wrote:   
   >> noname wrote:   
   >>> {:-]))) wrote:   
   >>>> brian wrote:   
   >>>>> {:-]))) wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> Why can't paranormal activity be replicated in a lab?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> In the case of telepathy, part of the answer lies in the very phrase   
   >>>>> you use, "paranormal activity". That, and the lab setting, are   
   >>>>> attempts to isolate and objectify something that is by nature a form   
   >>>>> of intimate responsive contact. The wrong key is being used is all.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Akin to a quantum effect, prehaps,   
   >>>> given by Young's double-slot-machine phenomena.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> When there are no, "detectors" involved, a wave-form   
   >>>> appears to be how reality manifests on various levels.   
   >>>> A quantum is able to move through openings simultaneously.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> When there is an attempt made to pin something down   
   >>>> to an either/or type of situation, the phenomenon vanishes.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Such a metaphor is less than ideal.   
   >>>> Yet it might yield a hint. Thanks.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Faraday shielding also came to mind.   
   >>>> Trying to cage something in, cages it out.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> That phenomenon may apply on many levels.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Explanations are interesting to me.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Not all of them need to be scientific   
   >>>> in order to be satisfying to the soul.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> - food   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> I had forgotten about the two-slit-experiment.   
   >>>   
   >>> I think telepathy in the lab is a different deal though.   
   >>>   
   >>> I think telepathy is only possible between individuals.  When a   
   >>> telepathic   
   >>> individual becomes an experimental subject, the individual is set   
   >>> aside and   
   >>> the person acts as an agent for the performance of the experiment.   
   >>> Because   
   >>> the person has set aside his individuality, any telepathic ability he   
   >>> might   
   >>> have goes with it.   
   >>   
   >> I am appreciating that scenario.   
   >>   
   >>> I'm not sure if telepathic ability only exists in some people, or in   
   >>> everyone.  I suspect that it exists within everyone.  But like so   
   >>> much else   
   >>> that is within us, being basically a fun-house mirror of everything   
   >>> outside   
   >>> of us, as we are, telepathy is largely yelled down by the beliefs   
   >>> imposed   
   >>> by our programmers.   
   >>   
   >> Consensus reality wins the day and rules.   
   >>   
   >> In a greater sphere of things, without rules, without a stage,   
   >> with no props, there isn't much for the act to go on.   
   >>   
   >>> Who are our programmers?  Why would they care to program us?  Follow the   
   >>> money, it's what they're following.   
   >>   
   >> Well now, that sounds a bit unwell now.   
   >>   
   >> Such a lesser sphere of the greatest of all greats   
   >> might not fly as far as the man over the trap with ease.   
   >>   
   >>>  It's why journalists write what they   
   >>> think will win them the Nobel Prize in Journalism, and why they   
   >>> forget how   
   >>> to be journalists, becoming yellow-sheet whores in their pursuit of fame   
   >>> and wealth.   
   >>>   
   >>> Why would anyone want to get out of the game?   
   >>>   
   >>> Because it's rigged.  You are going to lose.   
   >>>   
   >>> You can't win, you can't break even, and you can't get out of the game.   
   >>>   
   >>> What do you do in that situation?   
   >>   
   >> I sometimes see how it's an ego trip to be trapped.   
   >>   
   >> A no-self paradigm can be adopted to undo the damage done   
   >> by the one who is caught up in the trap without ease   
   >> who trips over his or her own ego.   
   >>   
   >>> I remember what Billy said many decades ago, when we were riding up the   
   >>> grapevine in his dad's Buick and the rods started knockin and rockin:   
   >>> Ignore it, maybe it'll go away.  So Billy's dad let us turn up the radio   
   >>> and the Buick made it all the way to wherever we were headed.   
   >>   
   >> Reminds me of the hot rod Lincoln   
   >> that went out of San Pedro late one night.   
   >   
   > Slow down!  I see spots...   
   >   
   > DT   
   >   
   > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~   
   >   
   > for years I thought he was saying; "slow down in icy spots"   
   > until I was playing it recently on guitar and looked up the lyrics.   
      
   Ahh, the Lady Mondegreen strikes again!  'Scuse me, while I kiss this guy...   
      
   DT   
      
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   and back when creedence sang "there's a bad moon on the rise"   
   I thought they were saying; "there's a bathroom on the right."   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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