XPost: alt.philosophy.taoism, alt.philosophy.zen, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy   
   From: meanmrmustard@gmail.com   
      
   "Wilson"  wrote in message news:npq4rp$gq9$1@dont-email.me...   
      
   On 8/26/2016 2:42 PM, djinn wrote:   
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   > "daletx"  wrote in message news:nppvmu14a8@news7.newsguy.com...   
   >   
   > On 8/25/2016 2:06 PM, djinn wrote:   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> "daletx"  wrote in message news:npnbda21a0c@news7.newsguy.com...   
   >>   
   >> On 8/25/2016 10:26 AM, {:-]))) wrote:   
   >>> noname wrote:   
   >>>> {:-]))) wrote:   
   >>>>> brian wrote:   
   >>>>>> {:-]))) wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Why can't paranormal activity be replicated in a lab?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> In the case of telepathy, part of the answer lies in the very phrase   
   >>>>>> you use, "paranormal activity". That, and the lab setting, are   
   >>>>>> attempts to isolate and objectify something that is by nature a form   
   >>>>>> of intimate responsive contact. The wrong key is being used is all.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Akin to a quantum effect, prehaps,   
   >>>>> given by Young's double-slot-machine phenomena.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> When there are no, "detectors" involved, a wave-form   
   >>>>> appears to be how reality manifests on various levels.   
   >>>>> A quantum is able to move through openings simultaneously.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> When there is an attempt made to pin something down   
   >>>>> to an either/or type of situation, the phenomenon vanishes.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Such a metaphor is less than ideal.   
   >>>>> Yet it might yield a hint. Thanks.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Faraday shielding also came to mind.   
   >>>>> Trying to cage something in, cages it out.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> That phenomenon may apply on many levels.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Explanations are interesting to me.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Not all of them need to be scientific   
   >>>>> in order to be satisfying to the soul.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> - food   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I had forgotten about the two-slit-experiment.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I think telepathy in the lab is a different deal though.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I think telepathy is only possible between individuals.  When a   
   >>>> telepathic   
   >>>> individual becomes an experimental subject, the individual is set   
   >>>> aside and   
   >>>> the person acts as an agent for the performance of the experiment.   
   >>>> Because   
   >>>> the person has set aside his individuality, any telepathic ability he   
   >>>> might   
   >>>> have goes with it.   
   >>>   
   >>> I am appreciating that scenario.   
   >>>   
   >>>> I'm not sure if telepathic ability only exists in some people, or in   
   >>>> everyone.  I suspect that it exists within everyone.  But like so   
   >>>> much else   
   >>>> that is within us, being basically a fun-house mirror of everything   
   >>>> outside   
   >>>> of us, as we are, telepathy is largely yelled down by the beliefs   
   >>>> imposed   
   >>>> by our programmers.   
   >>>   
   >>> Consensus reality wins the day and rules.   
   >>>   
   >>> In a greater sphere of things, without rules, without a stage,   
   >>> with no props, there isn't much for the act to go on.   
   >>>   
   >>>> Who are our programmers?  Why would they care to program us?  Follow   
   >>>> the   
   >>>> money, it's what they're following.   
   >>>   
   >>> Well now, that sounds a bit unwell now.   
   >>>   
   >>> Such a lesser sphere of the greatest of all greats   
   >>> might not fly as far as the man over the trap with ease.   
   >>>   
   >>>>  It's why journalists write what they   
   >>>> think will win them the Nobel Prize in Journalism, and why they   
   >>>> forget how   
   >>>> to be journalists, becoming yellow-sheet whores in their pursuit of   
   >>>> fame   
   >>>> and wealth.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Why would anyone want to get out of the game?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Because it's rigged.  You are going to lose.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> You can't win, you can't break even, and you can't get out of the game.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> What do you do in that situation?   
   >>>   
   >>> I sometimes see how it's an ego trip to be trapped.   
   >>>   
   >>> A no-self paradigm can be adopted to undo the damage done   
   >>> by the one who is caught up in the trap without ease   
   >>> who trips over his or her own ego.   
   >>>   
   >>>> I remember what Billy said many decades ago, when we were riding up the   
   >>>> grapevine in his dad's Buick and the rods started knockin and rockin:   
   >>>> Ignore it, maybe it'll go away.  So Billy's dad let us turn up the   
   >>>> radio   
   >>>> and the Buick made it all the way to wherever we were headed.   
   >>>   
   >>> Reminds me of the hot rod Lincoln   
   >>> that went out of San Pedro late one night.   
   >>   
   >> Slow down!  I see spots...   
   >>   
   >> DT   
   >>   
   >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~   
   >>   
   >> for years I thought he was saying; "slow down in icy spots"   
   >> until I was playing it recently on guitar and looked up the lyrics.   
   >   
   > Ahh, the Lady Mondegreen strikes again!  'Scuse me, while I kiss this   
   > guy...   
   >   
   > DT   
   >   
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   >   
   > and back when creedence sang "there's a bad moon on the rise"   
   > I thought they were saying; "there's a bathroom on the right."   
      
   Wait, what?   
      
   I actually read a story in a magazine years ago that quoted it as "bad   
   moon on the right".   
      
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   I've seen tons of incorrect lyrics on the net.   
   best to go to a band's official site and see   
   if the lyrics you might be seeking are there   
   first before trusting the web.   
      
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