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   Tang Huyen to Kitty P   
   Re: How to deflect Ninja stars   
   04 Sep 16 15:20:58   
   
   XPost: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.taoism, alt.philosophy.zen   
   From: tanghuyen@gmail.com   
      
   On 9/4/2016 1:11 PM, Kitty P wrote:   
      
   > "Wilson"   
      
    >> Tang Huyen:   
      
   >> salvifically.   
      
   >>> You can't fool me, that's not a real word.   
      
   > Obsolete   
      
   Whether it is a word still in use or never in use,   
   it should work fine in the context of salvation,   
   fit right in to it, because no means in general   
   and no word in particular, singly or altogether,   
   can point to salvation, the last being beyond   
   pointing to. Everything mustered for its sake   
   is going to be provisional and conventional, as   
   none is adequate, singly or altogether. It is no   
   more than inchoate babbling in admiration in   
   front of what is beyond admiration, and in   
   some circles, reputable or otherwise, it is said   
   to be just like selling water by the river, or in   
   English, selling back to you the shirt you wear   
   on your back. At best, it is intended as fakery   
   to help you get rid of your own fakery, foolery   
   to help you get rid of your own foolery, though   
   it is often sold as helping you return to your   
   nature, but if it is to help you return to your   
   nature, why should you go through inane   
   motions, like meditation, prayer, fasting,   
   bowing and scraping? Why shouldn't you be   
   able to get to it instantly, boom, just like that,   
   if it is your inalienable right? Why should it   
   not be delivered to you as on a platter, all   
   ready for consumption? The whole show   
   must be prestidigitation of the vilest kind.   
      
   It can be argued that awakening is   
   self-evident, but if it is self-evident, why   
   does it need so much hard work to get to it?   
   And right through all that hard work, it is   
   said that it is nothing that can be gotten.   
   Holy mackerel, what kind of vicious circle is   
   this?   
      
   Ah, but if you awaken, all is forgiven and all   
   is grace. Now that's really rich! Is there any   
   way to break though all that mindfuck?   
   What is the redeeming feature of the whole   
   show? You tell me!   
      
   Tang Huyen   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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