XPost: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.taoism, alt.philosophy.zen   
   From: tanghuyen@gmail.com   
      
   On 9/5/2016 7:05 AM, {:-]))) wrote:   
      
   > I always wondered about why he was saying what he'd say.   
   > It seemed to me to be odd. But I didn't know he was broadcasting   
   > from some match-book inside a drawer in a boxing decoder ring.   
   >   
   >  [moved from below]   
   >   
     > In here is out there, I often think I think of rogs in a box.   
     > Once the lid is lifted, if it is removed entirely, chances are   
     > at least one of the rogs in the box will leap out of it.   
      
   The Russian dolls are mutually fitting, one inside   
   another. The banana plants have one sheath inside   
   another, until you pull out the last one, and there is   
   nothing beneath (a very common Buddhist metaphor   
   for the absence of self or "I"). The putative place   
   where the last one has been stripped off is the point   
   of view from nowhere, the stand of no-standing, and   
   I don't pretend to be anywhere near there, but if you   
   can experience it and speak from it, you are in the   
   know, but since it is the point of view from nowhere,   
   the stand of no-standing, your word and gesture   
   have no status and no signature. They are empty of   
   actor.   
      
   > That's my impression of Usenet at its best.   
   > If people are not endlessly entertained by a newsgroup,   
   > then one might wonder why they continue to enter trains   
   > of thought that get derailed incessantly inside of one.   
      
   Buddhism and Daoism in general and their illegitimate   
   love-child, Chan, in particular are explicit attempts to   
   derail their followers' thought and trains of thought, gently   
   or otherwise, so that thought and trains of thought are   
   brought to a standstill and replaced by peace and   
   tranquillity, grace. It is where mental culture earns its   
   keep, though the reward is claimed to be the default state,   
   wholly gratuitous and undeserved. When it is found, it is   
   found to be just there, without provenance and destination.   
   But if you want to grab it, it is not there. That's the   
   peekaboo of salvation.   
      
   Tang Huyen   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)