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   From: invalid@invalid.invalid   
      
   Wilson  wrote:   
   > On 9/8/2016 6:46 AM, noname wrote:   
   >>   
   >> What's behind the point, the relevant meaning of it is, randomity does not   
   >> exist.   
   >   
   > An ordered system that's sufficiently complex is indistinguishable from   
   > chaos.   
   >   
   >   
   >   
      
   Indistinguishable to whom?   
      
   As has been pointed out in another thread, human-people tend to get caught   
   up in the details.   
      
   In fact when I ask myself what my eyes can see, what my ears can hear, my   
   fingers touch... it's all details.  We human-people have bodies that live   
   in manifest form.  The entire manifestation, this whole physical universe,   
   is "the details" of the reality those details evidence.  We are, by merit   
   of existing within this manifest reality, because we have bodily form, that   
   makes "us" details.  Our bodies are the details of how we have chosen our   
   way through the multiverse, one choice at a time, from the particularity of   
   our entry into manifestation.  And we are not our bodies, even though our   
   bodies are details which describe what we are, though those details are   
   seldom evident to others who have their own details to fret about.   
      
   So it isn't at all surprising that people get "caught up" in the details,   
   since the details are all that humans can see and hear and touch.  And it   
   isn't surprising that when one overclocks the processor or simplifies the   
   programming, the distinguishability-threshold changes, and the level of   
   complexity that can be distinguished from chaos increases.   
      
   In fact there is no such thing as true chaos.  The evidence of that is the   
   simple fact that we can perceive anything at all.  In a truly chaotic   
   universe nothing has any lasting relationship to anything, thus the entire   
   perceptual process would come to a bucket of nothing.   
      
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