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   From: wudao@wuji.net   
      
   noname wrote:   
      
   >In fact there is no such thing as true chaos.  The evidence of that is the   
   >simple fact that we can perceive anything at all.  In a truly chaotic   
   >universe nothing has any lasting relationship to anything, thus the entire   
   >perceptual process would come to a bucket of nothing.   
      
   A true Scotsman could not have said it better.   
      
   In fact, the fact is, it is true, facts are.   
      
   Pick a fact. Any fact. And it's a fact. Imagine that.   
      
   When looked at as being that.   
   That's what it is. Naturally.   
      
   And so, the sage takes the normal view of things.   
      
   To think there can be only yin   
   or only yang, or true yin or true yang,   
   without the other, might be a lop-sided Way   
   to go about thinking about yin and yang.   
      
   For moderns with their ultra-micro-scopic scopes   
   at the highest resolution there appears to be a soup,   
   if a tale be true, an ocean of sorts, given this, a notion,   
   a sea, to be seen by those with eyes to look thru the scope.   
      
   Pure chaos, maybe, except for the fine-tuned scope   
   and the eyes that happen to be looking at the sea.   
      
   But, never-mind the physicist.   
   The physicist is irrelevant in this story.   
      
   And, at the other, super-macro-scale in the balance,   
   at the end of the tale, once again, be it a big crunch or   
   an ever-expanding slow cold frozen universe that dies,   
   the unlasting relationships no longer mean anything.   
      
   Thus the entire perceptual process comes to a bucket   
   list of nothing. Aside from the astronomers who happen   
   to be looking thru their scopes at any particular time.   
      
   - in fact   
      
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