XPost: alt.philosophy.taoism, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.zen   
   From: wudao@wuji.net   
      
   Ummmmmmm wrote:   
   > {:-]))) wrote:   
   >   
   >> To think there is what is called the one true reality   
   >> independent of all viewers might be called a   
   >> sort of hypothetical situation.   
   >   
   >Agreed. To 'think' that there is one true reality independent of all   
   >viewers is a hypothetical situation.   
   >   
   >On the other hand, to *know* the one true reality, is to know that it's   
   >the same for everyone.   
      
   Two people will experience any   
   so-called event, or, reality, different.   
      
   Hence, there is no, "same" for everyone.   
      
   >This is not a hypothetical, but an actual situation. The universe, as it   
   >exists here and now.   
      
   To presume there is a thing, the universe,   
   or any so-called thing, is a presumption to begin with.   
      
   It's called carving the Uncarved Block.   
   It's a myth within a myth standing on guilded legs.   
      
   If you taste some so-called thing, someone else can't.   
      
   What you tasted is gone by your tasting of it.   
      
   Two people can't eat the same candy.   
      
   If a tree falls in the forest, it sounds as it sounds to you.   
   To an ant it sounds different, feels different, looks different.   
   To a bird in the air, it's all different as well.   
   It's not the same sound, sight, etc.   
      
   To, "know" what it actually sounds like and looks like and   
   feels like and smell like plus all other senses that could exist   
   if only they did exist, would take an infinite number   
   of hypothetical eyes, ears, noses, feelers,   
   sensors of all kinds and does not exist, actually.   
      
   Your universe, here and now, is not my universe here and now.   
   What anything means to you is not what it means to me.   
      
   - in actuality   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)