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   From: wudao@wuji.net   
      
   liaM wrote:   
   >On 9/14/2016 9:55 PM, Julian wrote:   
   >> On 14/09/2016 21:25, noname wrote:   
   >   
   >>>   
   >>> There are no random mutations.  None.  Everything is mutating, all the   
   >>> time.  Then people come along and look at the survivors and say   
   >>> they're the   
   >>> result of "random" mutations.  There's nothing "random" about it,   
   >>> those are   
   >>> the few of the infinite number of different kinds of survivors who   
   >>> actually   
   >>> survived.   
   >>   
   >> Is there anything random at all?   
   >> I suspect it is just a name for things not yet understood.   
   >   
   >   
   >Funny thing, I posted this french post awhile ago hoping TH would pick   
   >up on it.  It's authored by a friend.  It answers your question..   
   >   
   >Let's see if I can manage a quick translation.   
   >   
   >"As it happens, Allah creates the Universe anew every iota of time and   
   >thus is the existence of any sort of causal relationship impossible in   
   >the world."   
      
   With ziran, aka tzu-jan, things are of-themselves-so.   
      
   The same situation occurs in terms of acausality.   
   Cause-effect goes out the window.   
      
   There's no need for deity to exist in such a paradigm.   
      
   Some people don't appear to be able to accept   
   how cause-effect can be a template. For them, it's a reality.   
   It's their reality. And it's the one and only one, Reality, for them.   
      
   >On 9/5/2016 2:15 PM, Ahmed Ouahi, Architect wrote :   
   >   
   > > À savoir qu'à chaque atome de temps essentiellement qui s'écoule   
   > > Allah crée à nouveau le monde tout entier et qu'ainsi n'en puisse-t-il   
   > > Aucunement exister dans le monde aucune sorte de relation causale   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)