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   From: invalid@invalid.invalid   
      
   Nobody in Particular  wrote:   
   > On 10/5/2016 2:13 AM, noname wrote:   
   >> Nobody in Particular  wrote:   
   >>> On 10/4/2016 4:13 PM, noname wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I'm not sure why the hell any immigrant would   
   >>>> want to come to these particular Untied States.  Can you imagine landing   
   >>>> here, not speaking a word of English, trying to find a job, even a place   
   to   
   >>>> live, with no money to start with, nothing to pay the landlord so you can   
   >>>> camp out and look for a job available to someone to whom the entire   
   culture   
   >>>> is alien?  The cops may not use profiling but landlords sure do, and if   
   >>>> they need an excuse they can just rub your nose in your credit report.   
   >>>   
   >>> Interesting caricature; i imagine you have only have illegal Mexicans in   
   >>> mind.   
   >>>   
   >>> If you don't speak "a word of English", have no money, no place to stay,   
   >>> and no job, how could you possibly get an immigrant visa?   
   >>   
   >> Strictly cash up front at the visa store, huh?   
   >>   
   >>> I came here speaking passable English, having had several years of in in   
   >>> high-school, plus having crammed for it before setting out. I had some   
   >>> money ($250), a place to live (my aunt), found a job right away,   
   >>   
   >> When you have a free place to stay, any job will do.   
   >>   
   >> Of course if you don't, things are different.   
   >>   
   >> It wasn't illegal Mexicans that I had in mind.  They pretty much always   
   >> have people here they can live with, and when you have a free place to   
   >> stay, any job is good enough.   
   >   
   > What i'm trying to say is that your immigrant "landing here, not   
   > speaking a word of English, trying to find a job, even a place to live,   
   > with no money to start with, nothing to pay the landlord so you can camp   
   > out and look for a job available to someone to whom the entire culture   
   > is alien" simply does not exist, unless he's an illegal. You are only   
   > let in if you can show that you don't have those problems.   
   > That is, unless you're a refugee, but those have special programs to   
   > help them overcome those problems.   
   >   
   >   
      
   I've been in the situation described except for speaking English and having   
   grown up here.  Life is strange when you're a stranger.   
      
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