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   {:-]))) to Ummmmmmm   
   Re: No escape   
   08 Oct 16 05:34:21   
   
   XPost: alt.philosophy.taoism, alt.philosophy.zen   
   From: wudao@wuji.net   
      
   Ummmmmmm wrote:   
   > noname wrote:   
   >> Ummmmmmm wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> Whether one "is" or "has" a self is just wordplay. What wakes up in the   
   >>> morning - the entity that is reading these words - that's your self.   
   >>   
   >> Maybe not so much "just wordplay".  Wordplay comes from somewhere.   
   >   
   >Insecurity? Fear? A sense that simple meaning expressed in simple words   
   >might not seem quite . . . . important enough?   
      
   With me, wordswords arise out of double-entendre joy.   
   Some see  a wordsword one way, another, another.   
   It depends on how one carves an uncarved.   
      
   Projecting insecurity or fear onto words on a screen   
   might come from somewhere. Maybe inside of one's own self.   
   As if one owned a self.   
      
   Awakening, in the morning, if my arm is asleep, I'm not my arm.   
   If my whole body is paralyzed, but I am awake, I'm not my body.   
      
   I might then say, if I am not my body, I have a body. Or   
   I am inside my body, when I'm awake and it isn't.   
      
   Sometimes I see, and experience, and know, I am   
   my environment, as well as the center of everything inside it.   
      
   Extending that sense of knowing is expansive.   
   The experience can be all-encompassing.   
      
   Another poster posted about a different way of carving an uncarved.   
      
   Not being one's environment, nor body, that sense of knowing,   
   when I know and experience I am not-that, I call a way of subtracting.   
      
   With Taoism, such a Way leads to wu-wei.   
   Less and less, also called, unknowing or unlearning.   
      
   Words, be they in a book, or at play on a screen,   
   can be transformative in their own ways.   
      
   Semantics are often at play,   
   especially when carving ore uncarving.   
      
   - wordswords oar knots   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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