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   "Tang Huyen"  wrote in message   
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   On 10/9/2016 5:40 PM, dagnabit wrote:   
      
   > no need. if everything proceeds as it must,   
   > then thinking of it is simply superfluous.   
      
   That is the Stoic position. Everything happens by   
   fate, and the Stoic sage has no opinion, i. e., no   
   opinion on what happens. What happens happens   
   from its own side, and needs no interference from   
   us, not even our thinking on it. Stoic sagehood   
   simply lets what happens happen without slapping   
   anything superfluous on it, in effect treats what   
   happens as if it did not happen, not by blocking it   
   out, for that would be interference, but by simply   
   letting it happen, period. The underlying flow of   
   what happens gets to be the only thing that   
   happens, the only star, and all the extras are shed.   
   The Stoic sage simply surrenders to what happens   
   in its bare appearance, at the surface level in its   
   rawness, stops there, and refrains from weaving   
   any story to make it livable, not to mention   
   intelligible.   
      
   Tang Huyen   
      
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   it's the story that builds a cage for people,   
   not only in the *who I am* category, but also   
   in the emotional baggage that holds one to   
   the "content only" of one's experience.   
      
   if one can look to the context of one's experience,   
   i.e., where the storyline is generated from, content   
   would not be able to take charge as it tends to do.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)