XPost: alt.philosophy.taoism, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.zen   
   From: nottony.nokingsbury@ngmail.com   
      
   On 11/10/2016 3:01 AM, Tang Huyen wrote:   
   > On 10/9/2016 5:40 PM, dagnabit wrote:   
   >   
   >> no need. if everything proceeds as it must,   
   >> then thinking of it is simply superfluous.   
   >   
   > That is the Stoic position. Everything happens by   
   > fate, and the Stoic sage has no opinion, i. e., no   
   > opinion on what happens. What happens happens   
   > from its own side, and needs no interference from   
   > us, not even our thinking on it. Stoic sagehood   
   > simply lets what happens happen without slapping   
   > anything superfluous on it, in effect treats what   
   > happens as if it did not happen, not by blocking it   
   > out, for that would be interference, but by simply   
   > letting it happen, period. The underlying flow of   
   > what happens gets to be the only thing that   
   > happens, the only star, and all the extras are shed.   
   > The Stoic sage simply surrenders to what happens   
   > in its bare appearance, at the surface level in its   
   > rawness, stops there, and refrains from weaving   
   > any story to make it livable, not to mention   
   > intelligible.   
   >   
   > Tang Huyen   
      
   Tang, my sweet and loving Grandpop! You're fading away.   
   You do deserve better than to be shut up in a little box, pretending   
   that nothing's happening. Just waiting for it all to go away.   
   Simply surrendering.   
   Not caring if it all makes sense or not.   
      
   Next step - chemically induced catatonia. Voodoo Zen.   
   The not-alive undead as e.e.cummings used to call them.   
      
   But then, what happens to 'mental culture' in the zombie ward? Or are   
   you content for that to remain as unintelligible to you as it is to most   
   everyone else?   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)