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   "Tang Huyen"  wrote in message   
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   On 10/10/2016 3:46 PM, dagnabit wrote:   
      
   > there is something similar to this in kriya yoga.   
   > they claim that the universe dissolves and reforms   
   > itself 17 times per second which gives it a type of   
   > strobe effect to enhance its realism, but I don't   
   > know if this is meant to be a rebalancing act, as   
   > such, but mebbe so.   
      
   Both the theory in general and the number in particular   
   (17 times per eye-blink or whatever) are common in   
   India, perhaps in CE period. The Buddhist sect   
   Sautrantika says that thought is discontinuous, and that   
   there are 18 times thought arises and ceases per eye-blink   
   (or snap of the finger). One such thought-instant is called   
   ksana, and the whole mind arises and ceases with each   
   instant. Causality is hard to explain, as the discontinuity is   
   total, so that when a thought-instant arises, it arises from   
   nothing, and when it ceases, it vanishes completely.   
   Another way of putting it is that the whole world comes to   
   an end in a thought-instant, leaving nothing, and another   
   thought-instant pops up to replace it, without any   
   continuity. Other Buddhist sects adopt the same theory,   
   but the number of thought-instants varies, and some sects   
   are not so demanding regarding discontinuity.   
      
   If this looks like pure fantasy of antiquity, just read The   
   First And Last Freedom of Krishnamurti, where he asserts   
   in two places that one thought arises and ceases, another   
   thought arises and ceases, and one can observe the   
   interstice of silence. In theory, if one can observe the   
   interstice of silence between two thought-instants, one's   
   mind is purely receptive and is not weaving an overarching   
   story which connects the discontinuous thought-instants,   
   like a bridge which connects two sides of a river. Such an   
   overarching story would be superfluous to the   
   thought-instants, overreaching on top of reality, which   
   consists only of thought-instants.   
      
   I have never been anywhere near there, so simply leave it   
   in suspense. Perhaps you, Jen chérie, can tell us more.   
      
   Tang Huyen   
      
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   when silence sees silence, spirit sees spirit,   
   apart from the content of thinking-ness processes,   
   you are glimpsing awakening, but stabilizing there is   
   yet another matter.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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