XPost: alt.philosophy.taoism, alt.philosophy.zen   
   From: wudao@wuji.net   
      
   Ummmmmmm wrote:   
   > {:-]))) wrote:   
   >   
   >> Can't you see that as a generalization   
   >> that might not be true?   
   >   
   >As I've tried to explain, there's a difference between a generalisation   
   >(a logical construct, an extrapolation) and a fact.   
   >I've learnt a fact about human nature. It's true for all humans.   
      
   What you've appeared to say, many times, is you know, for a fact,   
   that all humans must have their very own living Master,   
   in the flesh, to experience what you have had   
   all along, and everyone has.   
      
   That might make sense, if it's, like, sex.   
   Sex with another person that is.   
   In real life.   
      
   Is that what you're referring to?   
      
   A kind of Tantric sexual yoga?   
      
   No other yoga will suffice?   
      
   Gnana/jnana won't work?   
   Bhakti won't work?   
   And it's gotta be in the flesh.   
   Not on the Internet, nor on cable televsion.   
      
   There is one, and only one, way.   
   A flesh and blood way is the way.   
   It's gotta be that way.   
      
   Not some spiritual way.   
   That would be woo.   
   Is that it?   
      
   You appear to be very dogmatic.   
   Your way is the only way.   
   And you know it.   
   For sure.   
   As a matter of fact.   
      
   That reminds me of some other people.   
   Ones who you seem to not appreciate.   
   Whom you seem to blame for a pickle.   
      
   Does that ring any bells?   
      
   How indoctrinated were you in religion,   
   before getting, enlightened, as you   
   seem to be saying you are?   
   Was it a form of fundamentalism?   
      
   Did your living Master impart that in you?   
   Is that a tradition she/he came from?   
   Only by lineage is a transmission transmitted?   
      
   Just curious where you get your facts.   
      
   Some people say they know   
   because the Bible told them so. They know   
   because it is in their hearts. And so,   
   Jesus is the one and only way.   
      
   What you say reminds me of that spirit.   
   Some say it is the Holy Spirit. The One and Only.   
      
   Yet maybe your living Master taught you different.   
   The One and Only Way is via a living Master.   
   Not some dead guy that came to life.   
   Did she/he tell you that?   
      
   Is it all the same?   
   Or is it all different?   
      
   So sew?   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)