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   "Wilson"  wrote in message news:ntjfn3$7t7$1@dont-email.me...   
      
   On 10/11/2016 9:48 AM, Tang Huyen wrote:   
   > On 10/11/2016 4:49 AM, Wilson wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 10/10/2016 11:24 PM, Nobody in Particular wrote:   
   >   
   >>> Thus i have heard:   
   >>> The frame-rate of the universe is one Planck time, 10^-43 seconds,   
   >>> the pixel-size of the universe is one Planck length, 1.6 x 10^-35 m or   
   >>> about 10^-20 times the size of a proton.   
   >   
   >> If I recall correctly, that's approximately the point where one can   
   >> start to see the frothiness of the universe as things come into and go   
   >> out of existence, for lack of a better word.   
   >   
   > Ha, "the frothiness of the universe as things come   
   > into and go out of existence". Wilson my sweet and   
   > loving son, thank you for that, it clicks with what I   
   > say about the Stoic God: he squirts into us and we   
   > ooze into existence in the same movement, and at   
   > the end of each world-cycle he burns up everything   
   > (including us) (another version of the same story says   
   > that he turns everything into water, in a   
   > world-cataclysm) to return into himself, a single   
   > substance, to meditate with himself, alone, without   
   > any second/adjunct/witness.   
   >   
   > Seneca says in his Letter 9: “What kind of life will a   
   > wise man have if he is abandoned by his friends and   
   > hurled into prison or isolated in some foreign country   
   > or detained on a long voyage or cast out onto a   
   > desert shore? It will be like the life of Zeus, at the   
   > time when the world is dissolved and the gods have   
   > been blended together into one, when nature comes   
   > to a stop for a while; he reposes in himself given over   
   > to his thoughts. The wise man’s behaviour is just like   
   > this: he retires into himself, and is with himself.” A. A.   
   > Long and D. N. Sedley, The Hellenistic Philosophers,   
   > Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1987, I, 277,   
   > item O, from Seneca, Letter 9.16 (SVF 2. 1065), text   
   > on II, 276: “qualis tamen futura est vita sapientis, si   
   > sine amicis relinquatur in custodiam coniectus vel in   
   > aliqua gente aliena destitutus vel in navigatione longa   
   > retentus aut in desertum litus eiectus? qualis est   
   > Iovis, cum resoluto mundo et dis in unum confusis   
   > paulisper cessante natura acquiescit sibi   
   > cogitationibus suis traditus. tale quiddam sapiens   
   > facit: in se reconditur, secum est.”   
   >   
   > Tang Huyen   
      
   Those stoics are so dry.   
      
   Rumi is said to have said that all of existence, all of the worlds, all   
   of the stars, everything that we might know, are the flecks of foam on   
   the crest of a wave on the surface of a boundless ocean.   
      
   "There is a certain cloud,   
   impregnated with a   
   thousand lightnings.   
   There is my being,   
   it is an ocean formed of glory,   
   all the creation,   
   all the universes,   
   all the galaxies,   
   are lost in it.'   
      
   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~   
      
   I've heard it described as the relative being   
   just a pimple on the butt of the absolute.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)