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   From: invalid@invalid.invalid   
      
   {:-])))  wrote:   
   > noname wrote:   
   >   
   >> A true Master   
   >> would not get frazzled enough to reply as he did.   
   >   
   > He wasn't frazzled at all.   
   >   
   > He was restoring an old car and needed a part for it.   
   > I was being my asshole self and picking at words, as usual.   
   >   
   > We've known each other for over 50 years.   
      
   Sounds like you had a private vocabulary.  You got slapped.  Was the next   
   thing he told you to go fetch the part?   
      
   >   
   > What's your impression of a true Master?   
      
   I don't always know what people mean by the words they use.  There are   
   levels of mastery.  The sage is a master when he is a sage.  The Sage is   
   always a sage and thus a Master.  It's a nit.   
      
   > Was your father one in any Way?   
      
   He probably never heard the word "Tao" or the phrase "mental-culture".   
   OTOH was a pretty fair mechanic.   
      
   > Mine was, in some ways.   
   >   
   > From what I've gathered of people who have gurus,   
   > after some initial, OMG this person is God, wears off,   
   > it turns out the guru is a normal person, aside from   
   > various siddhis that manifest during the course   
   > of showing the initiate, or student, etc., how   
   > things are at various levels of reality.   
   >   
   > Ram Dass, once again, can be an example of that,   
   > as he told his tale long ago, if you're familiar with him/it.   
   >   
      
   I've been here now for a time.   
      
   The wheelright's son probably thought he was a dork.  Are there stories of   
   the wheelright's son once he'd become a man?   
      
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