XPost: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.taoism, alt.philosophy.zen
From: meanmrmustard@gmail.com
"Tang Huyen" wrote in message
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> >
> > On 10/13/2016 9:18 AM, {:-]))) wrote:
> >
> > > Are you saying you don't want a Platonic relationship with dagnabit?
> > >
> > > Maybe I'm not quite understanding your point here.
> >
> > I have never known her anywhere else than on these boards. No
> > e-mail, nothing in private. Below is a (somewhat chaotic) sample
> > of her posts, from 2004, when she posted under the nym Dominic.
> > Classic Jen stuff. I bow low to her profound insight. Many
> > apologies to her for not having "got" her point back then, even
> > intellectually alone.
> >
> > < > clown acts in search of approval from cathode ray
> > tubes, should i be expected to inflate their balloons
> > for them?
> >
> > i can already see that that flower on your lapel simply
> > squirts water.>>
> >
> > < > triumvirate is so abyssmally infinitesimal in the cosmic chaotic
> > scheme of things that any actions towards any type of discipline,
> > philosophy or practice are going to have such a minute effect on
> > a monumentally worthless insignificant insubstantial
> > phenomenality that all efforts in this direction are infinitely
> > hilarious and a complete waste of phenomenal time. there is no
> > need to be or do anything. just be. being is utterly whole perfect
> > and complete just as it is.>>
> >
> > < > waste a lot of breath in propogating a system of wordmongered
> > self disciplines and self aggrandizements
> >
> > how you can sit there and say that there should be no concern
> > for self and the things of self and then wordstorm thousands of
> > posts with quote after quote about the eightfold noble path is
> > the height of contradiction hypocrisy and incongruency
> >
> > but that can be fun too>>
> >
> > < > that's practicing it and what type of advantage can be said to
> > effulge and to whom?
> >
> > the principles at play here, the consciousness and the
> > energies which play out into multitudinous personalities and
> > idiosyncracies are already perfect in their base design owing
> > to the notion that they are a pale reflection of that one true
> > prior most principle which is perfect whole and complete
> > within itself, the ding an sich, the thing in and of itself, and
> > nothing needs to be done to change it or to try to be something
> > other than what you already are right now. that which is the
> > creative principle cannot be changed anyway.
> >
> > the only thing that you could ever change is the false self, that
> > which you identify yourself as, the body-mind-personality. why
> > bother with all the practices and disciplines to alter something
> > that is false and slippery to begin with? you only shift its
> > falseness and slipperiness to a different channel.>>
> >
> > < > simply be. stop trying to intellectualize that which is completely
> > useless to begin with
> > [snip]
> > don't even begin to start with. you can't begin again if you
> > never worry about starting anything up at all knowing full well
> > that everything but everything is completely useless worthless
> > and insignificant to begin with and all practices show what a
> > fool one is for even trying to bring significance to utter
> > insignificance.>>
> >
> > < > heaven from hell
> > blue skies from pain
> > can you tell a green field
> > from a cold steel rail
> > a smile from a veil
> > do you think you can tell
> >
> > and did they get you to trade
> > your heroes for ghosts
> > hot ashes for trees
> > hot air for a cool breeze
> > cold comfort for charge
> > and did you exchange
> > a walk on part in the war
> > for a lead roll in a cage
> >
> > how i wish, how i wish you were here
> > we're just two lost souls swimmin' in a fish bowl year after year,
> > running over the same old ground what have we found, the
> > same old fears wish you were here>>
> >
> > < > order to be actualized and substantiated as such?
> >
> > are you enlightened? if not, second hand advice like this might
> > actually foster a reverse effect and keep you from an ultimate
> > expansion of your horizon of awareness. buddha appeared to
> > be teaching for his day and the particular person or people
> > sitting in front of him at the time. he also said that his words
> > needed to be dropped ultimately, the story of the raft, and
> > nisargadatta maharaj said the same thing, that his disciples
> > would ultimately need to let go of his teachings since his words
> > were like all other words, simply concepts in a conceptual
> > realm where what he was attempting to describe was beyond
> > or prior to words and concepts in a type of metanoesis d
> > esignation, or beyond wisdom, as such.
> > absolute reasoning defies logic. absolute reasoning defies
> > reason.>>
> >
> > < > might like to shimmer in resonant luminosity to the tune of
> > changing what i appear to be into what i think i should appear
> > to be, none of it, conceptual or cognizable, will be to any
> > advantage except to that resonant luminosity and its survival
> > agenda and strategy
> >
> > beneath it all, the subtle implicate order is perfect whole and
> > complete in and of itself and needs no relative renditionalities
> > to secure its place in the survival matrix it has identified with.
> >
> > there is nothing that you need to become or change yourself
> > into. all that is needed is to recognize that you are not this
> > body or its subsequent mind and personality and with this
> > understanding comes a total freedom that is beyond
> > description because this state is prior to designations, words
> > and concepts.
> >
> > go right now to zero concepts. stay there.>>
> >
> > < > bleed stream that fractals its depressurized enharmonic line
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