XPost: alt.philosophy.taoism, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.zen   
   From: invalid@invalid.invalid   
      
   Ummmmmmm  wrote:   
   > On 16/09/2016 9:33 AM, {:-]))) wrote:   
   >> liaM wrote:   
   >>> {:-]))) wrote:   
   >>>>> Ummmmmmm wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> If we have only one life - surely we have to aim for the highest?   
   >>>>>> Otherwise we let ourselves down.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> ...   
   >>>> Realizing a view of how nothing matters,   
   >>>> it doesn't matter how high or less than highest high one aims.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> When it is known there is no ultimate point nor purpose, one is free.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Being entirely free of, "having to aim"   
   >>>> one is free indeed.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Being liberated can be totally liberating.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Words, such as, enlightenment, freedom, liberation, et al   
   >>>> might mean something, or other, given a deep ending.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Knowing is a part of speech as it wells.   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> Very true. The dharma is not something to be dangling idle on   
   >>> newsgroups.  It's something to seek to complete.  Buddhism is   
   >>> pro-active. Leave the fucking burning house.  Get to understanding   
   >>> what the causes and antidote to suffering.  Make samsara obsolete.   
   >>> And go on to harder things to do in life.  Write your   
   >>> book.  Go door to door for the Dems or for Bernie.  Paint, make music,   
   >>> learn to make a great omelette.   
   >>   
   >> To be a human being can be to simply be.   
   >> One does not need to do anything. No wei is the Way.   
   >> Even to be is not a need. So say Wu to wei.   
   >>   
   >> With Taoism in mind, there is always something higher   
   >> and always something lower. To reach the highest high   
   >> reminds me of trying to be the most yang.   
   >>   
   >> If anything, Taoism would suggest the opposite.   
   >> Water seeks its own level as rivers flow to the sea.   
   >> Seeking less and less and allowing all things to be   
   >> one might eventually arrive at wu-wei.   
   >>   
   >> It don't get much more downhill than that.   
   >>   
   >> I don't know if Ummmmmmm is familiar with the TTC.   
   >   
   > Yes I am. I've read at least 6 different English translations. Most   
   > completely different from each other.   
   > For those who haven't had actual experience of the state of mind in   
   > which the Tao becomes a luminously self-evident presence, it can be a   
   > source of optimism.   
      
   Your "luminously self-evident presence" sounds like swamp-gas.   
      
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