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   dagnabit to Tang Huyen   
   Re: Early Jen/dagnabit (was Re: Existent   
   14 Oct 16 10:53:13   
   
   XPost: alt.philosophy.taoism, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.zen   
   From: meanmrmustard@gmail.com   
      
   "Tang Huyen"  wrote in message   
   news:aeea9742-6d05-b9ae-af4a-b92ae05cc46a@gmail.com...   
   >   
   > On 10/14/2016 6:05 AM, {:-]))) wrote:   
   >   
   > > Reminds me of me, being here two play.   
   > > As the world, sewinging two-speak, otheringing.   
   > > Ping sounded good. Pong resounded as wells.   
   >   
   > Yesterday I quoted her:   
   >   
   > < awakening doofus>>   
   >   
   > She also said:   
   >   
   > < become enlightened, which many over time   
   > have seemed to do, but instead it would   
   > be to convincingly return one's self to one's   
   > relinqished ego and enjoy the human   
   > agenda of suffering in all its raging   
   > glory.   this could preclude any need   
   > for anyone to bother becoming enlightened   
   > in the first place.>>   
   >   
   > < as samadhi.  my thoughts stop, then my   
   > breathing and my heartbeat.  nisargadatta   
   > maharaj said that samadhi was just another   
   > form of sleep.  he states that the 'absolute'   
   > perspective is the ultimate state.  i feel that   
   > i occasionally touch on this 'absolute'   
   > perspective.>>   
   >   
   > <>   
   >   
   > < other but *ME*.>>   
   >   
   > < should " I " go out of "my" way to avoid saying " I ". " I  " would   
   > have to drop "me" and "my" too and communication would   
   > become even more cryptic from "yours truly" than it already is,   
   > so would you want that ? For me to speak in COMPLETELY   
   > impersonal terms ?" I " really don't think that "you're" ready for   
   > that yet.   
   > As to your other concepts, life and death, if your impression is   
   > that " I " fear either of them, then go ahead and entertain that   
   > concept too." I " guess " I'll " never get tired of saying that it is   
   > almost impossible for anyone to reach that prior to concepts   
   > state. All the words and all the ideas are simply conceptual   
   > entertainment and contain no ultimate meaning or value.>>   
   >   
   > <>   
   >   
   > < Judging piles on the emotional baggage to bolster the security,   
   > sensation and power addictions. Discernment allows for a   
   > gradual transition from what constricts awareness to what   
   > expands it.>>   
   >   
   > < way on their own path ? If your path were perfect and you were   
   > completely realized, this would still be no cause for you to stand   
   > in such adamant judgements of others. You think that your   
   > judgements define others but it just defines you as someone who   
   > has a deep emotional addiction to judgement. If you can ever get   
   > your nose out of the air and look around at the way things really   
   > are, and not how you are projecting your own dullness onto reality   
   > in exchange for the reality looking like you to you, and thus   
   > satisfying those emotional security and power addictions, you   
   > might actually appear humane to yourself and you might actually   
   > see that humane-ness is more of what this reality is rather than   
   > Tang-dullness.>>   
   >   
   > < radio stations that are programmed this way. There aren't really   
   > any DJ's present , it is all done by computer. But we know that   
   > Tang isn't just a cyber-ghost because why would anyone create   
   > such an obtuse, hebetudinous persona with such a bland psyche   
   > anyway ?>>   
   >   
   > < generous person I could, always trying to share, always trying to   
   > do for others with no thought of my own self gaining anything in   
   > the process. I think this sets the basis for a shift in awareness   
   > from a focus of worldly events processed through the senses to   
   > an inner aspect of intuitive understanding.   
   > Sometime in the 70's I had a massive shift in consciousMess that   
   > resulted in my speaking to everyone in stories and parables.   
   > People told me that I sounded just like Christ so I bought a Bible   
   > and read some of the words of Christ and it was as if I had written   
   > them myself. Before this shift in consciousMess I had never   
   > meditated or read any metaphysical books whatsoever but from   
   > somewhere inside there was a teacher who was revealing things   
   > to me. It wasn't a voice but subtle impressions that I had to pay   
   > very close attention to and try not to mix these messages with my   
   > own thought patterns. I had spontaneous doses of samadhi back   
   > then too but I didn't even know what it was at the time. This shift   
   > in consciousMess over the years has intensified to a point where I   
   > would come to a bliss state that was so powerful that I had to talk   
   > myself out of it because it would end up getting me in trouble   
   > because there was absolutely no fear of anything whatsoever and   
   > in that state you can hurt yourself physically but you don't care.   
   > Then in the early 80's one other massive shift in awareness   
   > occurred on top of an already deepening awareness over the   
   > years and a massive bliss attack was again underway with an   
   > aspect of knowledge pouring in which many of the things that I   
   > have come to understand still shouldn't be spoken of because of   
   > the nature of Jivas and their beliefs and such.   
   > Most Jivas have a tunnel vision that is easy to recognize and as   
   > such I have yet to find anyone face to face or here on the net that   
   > is at a concept-free level and can discuss these things that I have   
   > come to understand.>>   
   >   
   > < that arise in consciousness. You don't have consciousness,   
   > consciousness has many forms in which to express itself. All   
   > knowledge is there in your sense of conscious presence. It simply   
   > depends on a particular arena of focus for certain ideas to surface   
   > and to be claimed as individual.>>   
   >   
   > < possibly and potentially available in your sense of conscious   
   > presence. It is knowledge itself. Depending on the arena of focus   
   > that 'one' employs, any and all knowledge is available there. There   
   > are no individuals as such, but simply the process of   
   > consciousness in function. All there is, is consciousness. I make   
      
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