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   From: tanghuyen@gmail.com   
      
   On 10/14/2016 9:36 AM, Wilson wrote:   
      
   > On 10/14/2016 11:49 AM, noname wrote:   
      
   >> Maybe he stepped on a caltrop I left laying around in absfg.   
   >> Maybe one of Tang's ninja-stars got him.  Maybe he done   
   >> thought about stuff.  What about that, Wilson?   
      
   > If I blame your caltrop or Tang's ninja stars, does that relive   
   > me of all responsibility?   
   >   
   > Nah, I didn't thinks so.   
   >   
   > (And I had to look up caltrop too. It's a learning day today.)   
      
   <> Jen/dagnabit, 01 Sep 2006.   
      
   The late Hal Hesse told me many times that he had sent an order   
   telepathically to Jeffrey, a resident of Old Freedom Monastery,   
   who by then had died, to buy bread and take it home, and   
   Jeffrey would go to town, buy bread, go back and hand it to Hal,   
   saying: "I bought this, I don't know why."   
      
   That said, casting Ninja stars like I do is mere talk, which is   
   cheap. The ability to plant thoughts in somebody else, specially   
   at a distance, and have that somebody act on it is rare and   
   difficult. In the latter case, it does not relieve the sender of   
   responsibility, in the former nothing happens except pure talk,   
   so no responsibility needs to be assumed.   
      
   Even if somebody has the ability to plant thought in somebody   
   else, specially at a distance, and have the latter act on it, the   
   recipient still can use mindfulness to be conscious of the   
   introduction of such thought from the outside and decide what   
   to do about it, perhaps to resist it, ignore it, or accept it and act   
   on it, but all in consciousness and responsibility. It is true that   
   mindfulness must be very acute to pick up such cues and handle   
   them in ... mindfulness.   
      
   To whet your curiosity, Hal told me that in order to send thought   
   telepathically as above, one must enter a markless realm, and   
   there one can locate the recipient's mind and plant the thought.   
   It sounds very paradoxical, as in such markless realm there is no   
   point of reference, so how can anything be located, even less a   
   mind susceptible of "getting" the order? I have never been   
   anywhere near there, so Jen can say something to take up the   
   slack, about zapping thought into another mind. (Such markless   
   realm is all over the place in the Wisdom scriptures).   
      
   Tang Huyen   
      
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