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   From: invalid@invalid.invalid   
      
   {:-])))  wrote:   
   > dagnabit wrote:   
   >> Tang quoted Jen and then wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> <>> delusions based on fear.   
   >   
   > I'm not sure if that's necessarily true.   
   >   
   >>> the symptoms of suffering are delusion as   
   >>> are methodologies to end suffering.   
   >   
   > I suppose techniques, or Tao, can be seen as such.   
   >   
   > I see the TTC not quite saying that.   
   >   
   > Methodologies do work, there's no doubt of that that.   
   > Yet to think one method is the be-all or end-all, is doubtful.   
      
   Methodologies are like their name, long and fancied-up.   
   Knowing one, one knows the source of the shadows it casts.   
   When the shadows move, it is because the fingers have moved.   
   Even when the one is oneself.   
      
   >   
   > Taoism begins with a caveat.   
   > It then explores its own methodology.   
   > Being gnarly as a gnarly tree sounds good. And it works.   
   > Until one finds one's self as a honkless goose.   
   >   
   >>> when concept itself is allowed   
   >>> to flourish past that which seem to be its specific boundary attribute   
   >>> parameters, all concept blends in retroactive motion to its prior to   
   >>> concept strata.>>   
   >>>   
   >>> Colour me impressed. Again, I apologise yugely for failing to   
   >>> understand her back then. Better late than never. All is well that ends   
   >>> well.   
   >>   
   >> when one gets a good enough glimpse of that pristine   
   >> state, as ramana maharshi called it, one wants to run   
   >> out and tell the whole world about it because it is easy   
   >> to see that most don't recognize it yet there is no basis   
   >> for communicating it and it just becomes pure frustration   
   >> to try to tell others about it.   
   >   
   > What I've seen is that most know it, and are involved   
   > in doing other things. They're so involved, they don't care   
   > about some glimpse of a glimmer of some pristine thing   
   > someone who claims there are no others is saying.   
   >   
      
   That's spelled "attachment" in Buddhism, or "strong attachment", it's the   
   level of involvement that has to be decreased before we can hear ourselves   
   thinking well enough to get the rest of it to shut up.   
      
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