XPost: alt.philosophy.taoism, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.zen
From: invalid@invalid.invalid
Tang Huyen wrote:
> On 10/14/2016 9:36 AM, Wilson wrote:
>
>> On 10/14/2016 11:49 AM, noname wrote:
>
>>> Maybe he stepped on a caltrop I left laying around in absfg.
>>> Maybe one of Tang's ninja-stars got him. Maybe he done
>>> thought about stuff. What about that, Wilson?
>
>> If I blame your caltrop or Tang's ninja stars, does that relive
>> me of all responsibility?
>>
>> Nah, I didn't thinks so.
>>
>> (And I had to look up caltrop too. It's a learning day today.)
>
> < meditation but if one does reach this stage, which includes
> reading minds, by comparison to one's previous level of control
> addiction satisfaction it takes a great deal of self discipline to
> ignore them. i have experienced at times the notion that i
> broadcast my thoughts and certain people can pick this up and
> react thusly.
> at work, if i see that someone is forgetting to do a part of their
> job, i will send a mental message to them by focusing on a
> specific area of their forehead and many times they will do what
> they've forgotten.>> Jen/dagnabit, 01 Sep 2006.
>
> The late Hal Hesse told me many times that he had sent an order
> telepathically to Jeffrey, a resident of Old Freedom Monastery,
> who by then had died, to buy bread and take it home, and
> Jeffrey would go to town, buy bread, go back and hand it to Hal,
> saying: "I bought this, I don't know why."
>
> That said, casting Ninja stars like I do is mere talk, which is
> cheap. The ability to plant thoughts in somebody else, specially
> at a distance, and have that somebody act on it is rare and
> difficult. In the latter case, it does not relieve the sender of
> responsibility, in the former nothing happens except pure talk,
> so no responsibility needs to be assumed.
>
> Even if somebody has the ability to plant thought in somebody
> else, specially at a distance, and have the latter act on it, the
> recipient still can use mindfulness to be conscious of the
> introduction of such thought from the outside and decide what
> to do about it, perhaps to resist it, ignore it, or accept it and act
> on it, but all in consciousness and responsibility. It is true that
> mindfulness must be very acute to pick up such cues and handle
> them in ... mindfulness.
>
> To whet your curiosity, Hal told me that in order to send thought
> telepathically as above, one must enter a markless realm, and
> there one can locate the recipient's mind and plant the thought.
> It sounds very paradoxical, as in such markless realm there is no
> point of reference, so how can anything be located, even less a
> mind susceptible of "getting" the order? I have never been
> anywhere near there, so Jen can say something to take up the
> slack, about zapping thought into another mind. (Such markless
> realm is all over the place in the Wisdom scriptures).
>
> Tang Huyen
>
Oh my, are we looking for the power of remote control? Oops!
Caltrops are not commands, they are reminders, to notice where we step.
Whether they return us to what is true, or simply remind us of what is
false, they drive a stake into the floor, a knowing that this is that, or
that is this. It does not fall into place for no reason, it is only the
reader's knowledge that here, this caltrop, is something that is definitely
true, or definitely false, that causes the reader to keep it, because it is
true.
Perhaps a ninja-star is similar, but of a more questing nature, a wondering
about things unstated, paradoxes left incomplete, such as your use of the
word "whet" above.
Or perhaps this is one of the posts that never reaches any destination.
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