XPost: alt.philosophy.taoism, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.zen   
   From: wudao@wuji.net   
      
   On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 23:27:16 -0000 (UTC), noname   
    wrote:   
      
   >liaM  wrote:   
   >> On 10/16/2016 12:50 AM, noname wrote:   
   >>> Kitty P  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> "liaM"  wrote in message news:ntrn00$n73$1@dont-email.me...   
   >>>>   
   >>>> On 10/14/2016 5:49 PM, noname wrote:   
   >>>>> liaM  wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 10/14/2016 8:36 AM, noname wrote:   
   >>>>>>> Kitty P  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> "noname"  wrote in message news:ntp2bk$koi$6@dont-email.me...   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Kitty P  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> "noname"  wrote in message news:ntodoe$8q9$6@dont-email.me...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> dagnabit  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> "Ned Ludd"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> news:pu2dnSimW7_mgGLKnZ2dnUU7-LXNnZ2d@earthlink.com...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> "Tang Huyen"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> news:eaa3691f-3775-5c70-5b47-b3af4d6a37ad@gmail.com...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/12/2016 8:07 PM, Ned Ludd wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Holy moly.  So you want to grab women's breasts and put   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> your hand up their skirts??  (Mentally.)  That's quite an   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> admission, even for a.b.s.f.g.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I suppose it was only a matter of time. You can only stay   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> stoic up to a point. Then it all spews out. Like a late-term   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> volcano.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any more revelations?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> "You can only stay stoic up to a point" should have been:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> "You can only stay platonic up to a point."   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Returning to your post, many women complain that men   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> in authority (like professors and managers) figuratively   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> strip them naked when ogling them up close.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Tang Huyen   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> But seriously, what do you think women want?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> security, protection and emotional satisfaction.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> These days that often includes every shiny thing that can be   
   >>>>>>>>>>> squeezed   
   >>>>>>>>>>> into   
   >>>>>>>>>>> the credit-limit.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> men just want to get their dicks wet.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> I'd say that's necessary-but-not-sufficient.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> I have a great time reading what men think about women. The   
   >>>>>>>>>> fascination   
   >>>>>>>>>> for   
   >>>>>>>>>> me is that women aren't all the same and I read the generalizations   
   >>>>>>>>>> with   
   >>>>>>>>>> the   
   >>>>>>>>>> same good humor as when women talk as if all men are the same. Both   
   >>>>>>>>>> those   
   >>>>>>>>>> generalizations just aren't universally true in either case. For   
   >>>>>>>>>> example, if   
   >>>>>>>>>> dinky dunkin' were the only thing in men's motivations - things   
   would   
   >>>>>>>>>> be   
   >>>>>>>>>> pretty tense with mom, sis, aunties, daughters, and female friends.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> If I were to name something that I think most women want - it would   
   >>>>>>>>>> be   
   >>>>>>>>>> simple kindness.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> You don't mean actually caring enough that you're the fun part of his   
   >>>>>>>>> life,   
   >>>>>>>>> do you?   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> I don't sleep much anymore.  Seldom more than about 4 hours.  Then I   
   >>>>>>>>> get   
   >>>>>>>>> up   
   >>>>>>>>> and do the next thing for a while.  Around dawn when it's about time   
   >>>>>>>>> for   
   >>>>>>>>> the Old Woman to drag it out of bed (she's a 10-12-hour sleeper), I   
   >>>>>>>>> start   
   >>>>>>>>> getting a huge erection right on my smile muscles cuz I've remembered   
   >>>>>>>>> that   
   >>>>>>>>> there's more to life than what doesn't include her.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> I can see there might not be a lot of kindness in her household.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> I thought your vision was better. Sad sad.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> It could be that your description of your old lady dragging it out of   
   >>>>>> bed was somewhat derogatory from a woman's point of view.  Might be   
   >>>>>> of course this is your manner of being affectionate, uh?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I'm an old man, she's an old woman, we both think it's humorous that we   
   >>>>> can   
   >>>>> now play the "oh my i am old and lame and stupid and don't remember shit"   
   >>>>> card and get away with it, because, you know, we're old now.  It's a   
   hoot.   
   >>>>> Sometimes we walk toward each other like cuckoo-clock people when the   
   hour   
   >>>>> rings, then hug and crack up.  Maybe living at high altitude has twiddled   
   >>>>> our humor zones here and there, inspired a few brain defects, that kinda   
   >>>>> thing.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> Just like   
   >>>>>> African Americans were reported to be calling each other "niggers" and   
   >>>>>> other racist expletives while love making, something that most white   
   >>>>>> anglo saxon prudes wouldn't understand.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Can't really comment on that, i've never been a fly on that wall.  As I   
   >>>>> remember, all the black folks I've run into had more interesting things   
   to   
   >>>>> do than hang out with some white geek.  Not counting the ones I've run   
   >>>>> into   
   >>>>> late at night in places no sane whitey would go, who were just folks with   
   >>>>> whom I shared a perspective.  I'm pretty sure that cats also yowl and   
   >>>>> carry   
   >>>>> on when they make love, whatever floats their boat is their deal.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> And when you start with   
   >>>>>> "getting a huge erection" upon remembering "that there's more to life   
   >>>>>> than what doesn't include her."  - What the hell does that mean?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> You have trouble with double-negatives too?  Some do, some don't.  Note   
   >>>>> that I get a huge erection OF MY SMILE MUSCLES.  Like Kitty, your brain   
   >>>>> has   
   >>>>> been programmed to turn off when it encounters certain phrases and   
   >>>>> concepts.  Maybe I'm just some old drunk programmer who gave it up for   
   >>>>> deprogramming and booze, who's to know?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> That   
   >>>>>> you have your own life in which you really don't give a shit about   
   >>>>>> including her? Or what?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> It means that there ain't no sunshine when she's gone, just the next   
   >>>>> thing,   
   >>>>> which isn't all that bad, but without her there's hardly any sunshine,   
   >>>>> it's   
   >>>>> just next-thing, not fun or unfun, but kind of empty.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> You know the old pave-parking-lot song, don't know what you've got until   
   >>>>> it's gone; she came within an inch of dying last year, and I had a few   
   >>>>> days   
   >>>>> without her while she was in the hospital; before then I'd been too busy   
   >>>>> living the life and raising kids and getting over parenthood trauma to   
   >>>>> grasp the depth of my love for her.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Now here I am, in a newsgroup where people supposedly think about things,   
   >>>>> and I find people who think exactly as they've been taught, in the most   
      
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