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   From: invalid@invalid.invalid   
      
   Tang Huyen  wrote:   
   > On 10/15/2016 10:08 AM, noname wrote:   
   >   
   >> Siddhis are not done by the individual through some   
   >> power the individual has accumulated, they are   
   >> not-done by the individual and done by the world   
   >> because it is necessary.  It's a fine line, and easy to   
   >> think that what one's egoic self demands is what is   
   >> necessary.   
   >   
   > This is my line of reasoning about the great mass murderers   
   > being of some service to humanity. As I often say, great mass   
   > murderers like Stalin, Mao, Hitler, and recently, Pol Pot, are   
   > good, perhaps involuntarily, in helping to keep human   
   > population within earthly sustainability. Such population   
   > reduction is natural amongst some animals, like lemmings.   
   >   
   > To borrow from your felicitous wording: yuge mass murder to   
   > the scale of the above tyrants is not done only by said   
   > individuals through some powers the individuals have   
   > accumulated (though that is true), it is not-done by the   
   > individuals and done by the world because it is necessary.   
   > Such individuals are evil, but not entirely evil, as they   
   > contribute some good to humanity, in the above purview.   
   >   
   > Tang Huyen   
   >   
      
   Remember the story of the farmer's horse, how everyone said "oh, this is   
   bad!" when it ran away, how they thought it was "wonderful, your horse is   
   back, and it brought a mare!", and all the rest of that story, which I   
   assume all reading here are aware of.  Its point was what the farmer said   
   whenever his neighbors concluded that fortune was done with him.  We'll   
   see.   
      
   Trump is feeling his oats, because he obtained wealth through navigating   
   the worlds placed before him; in that sense his wealth came from virtue.   
   It is when leaders begin to deify themselves, thinking their power came   
   from something they made, forgetting that it was not themselves who placed   
   the opportunities before them, that problems begin.   
      
   The problem grows worse when power is passed down to children.  Even though   
   daddy may have gained his wealth from virtue, the children cannot but   
   realize that their own wealth was inherited.  When they begin to consider   
   it their just reward for nothing, you have created a line between Nobility   
   and paupers.   
      
   Trump could win the election in a landslide.  The only thing he would have   
   to do is promise a 100% tax on inheritance, all inheritance large or small.   
    A leader who knows where his power comes from also knows that it is freely   
   available to his children who deserve it, and will only set the ones who do   
   not on a path of dissolution, whether it is open and above-board, or hidden   
   in boardrooms.   
      
   Of course the rich will find ways to pass their wealth to those they wish,   
   but it would win him the election.   
      
   What you spoke of, mass murders committed by mass murderers?  Did they make   
   the opportunity for that by themselves, or is it something that the world   
   saw as necessary, like a horse running away?   
      
   I have no facts at my disposal, none.  I could collect some, if there was   
   some true source for them, and then the facts could be jerry-rigged to look   
   however someone wanted them to look.   
      
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