XPost: alt.philosophy.taoism, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.zen   
   From: wudao@wuji.net   
      
   Tang wrote:   
   > noname wrote:   
   >   
   >> Siddhis are not done by the individual through some   
   >> power the individual has accumulated, they are   
   >> not-done by the individual and done by the world   
   >> because it is necessary.  It's a fine line, and easy to   
   >> think that what one's egoic self demands is what is   
   >> necessary.   
   >   
   >This is my line of reasoning about the great mass murderers   
   >being of some service to humanity. As I often say, great mass   
   >murderers like Stalin, Mao, Hitler, and recently, Pol Pot, are   
   >good, perhaps involuntarily, in helping to keep human   
   >population within earthly sustainability. Such population   
   >reduction is natural amongst some animals, like lemmings.   
   >   
   >To borrow from your felicitous wording: yuge mass murder to   
   >the scale of the above tyrants is not done only by said   
   >individuals through some powers the individuals have   
   >accumulated (though that is true), it is not-done by the   
   >individuals and done by the world because it is necessary.   
   >Such individuals are evil, but not entirely evil, as they   
   >contribute some good to humanity, in the above purview.   
      
   It might be obvious, too obvious, to say, what occurs, occurs.   
      
   Chopping what occurs, or occurred, to pieces also occurs.   
      
   How and why the chopping is done in one fashion   
   rather than in some other fashion   
   can be fashionable.   
      
   Others, here, across these boards, see models   
   as they stroll down the runways of their minds on a walk.   
      
   Some think of men, some of women, some of killers, some   
   of natural eco-systemic mindless functions, as if Mother Nature   
   did not wear shades and had a mind to be ruthless or impartial.   
      
   She treats all her children as straw dogs.   
      
   Rabbits are in the service of the wolves.   
   The wolves are in the service of the rabbits.   
      
   When the rabbits multiply, the wolves keep them in check.   
      
   And that sounds very ecological.   
      
   Until there are too many wolves and   
   not enough rabbits.   
      
   Now some people in the lower economic rabbit-world   
   see the wolves becoming too numerous and don't approve.   
      
   The wolves don't see any problem with the situation.   
   It's not as if the rabbits are sheep and are going to rise up,   
   like in some Pink Floyd song, and eat the wolves.   
      
   If the grass dies and the rabbit population starves,   
   it could be said the grass was in the service of the rabbits,   
   to thin the wolf population.   
      
   As if the grass could sing.   
   Or fly to the Sun without burning a wing.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)