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   From: wudao@wuji.net   
      
   Nedd wrote:   
   > Nobody wrote in message   
   >> On 10/15/2016 7:36 PM, Tang Huyen wrote:   
   >>> On 10/15/2016 10:08 AM, noname wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> Siddhis are not done by the individual through some   
   >>>> power the individual has accumulated, they are   
   >>>> not-done by the individual and done by the world   
   >>>> because it is necessary.  It's a fine line, and easy to   
   >>>> think that what one's egoic self demands is what is   
   >>>> necessary.   
   >>>   
   >>> This is my line of reasoning about the great mass murderers   
   >>> being of some service to humanity. As I often say, great mass   
   >>> murderers like Stalin, Mao, Hitler, and recently, Pol Pot, are   
   >>> good, perhaps involuntarily, in helping to keep human   
   >>> population within earthly sustainability. Such population   
   >>> reduction is natural amongst some animals, like lemmings.   
   >>>   
   >>> To borrow from your felicitous wording: yuge mass murder to   
   >>> the scale of the above tyrants is not done only by said   
   >>> individuals through some powers the individuals have   
   >>> accumulated (though that is true), it is not-done by the   
   >>> individuals and done by the world because it is necessary.   
   >>> Such individuals are evil, but not entirely evil, as they   
   >>> contribute some good to humanity, in the above purview.   
   >>   
   >> You are a seriously disturbed individual.   
   >> In simpler words: You are one sick puppy.   
   >>   
   >   
   >...Only one nation saw this.   
   >For 35 years China   
   >prevented 200 million births,   
   >by fiat, edict, and punishment.   
   >But at the 18th Plenum   
   >of the CCP, in 2013,   
   >the policy was revoked:   
   >Something about pensions   
   >and supporting health care   
   >made them abandon it.   
   >So that's that -   
   >WE can't handle it,   
   >so we'll leave it   
   >to the Four Horsemen,   
   >as we have always done.   
   >And it's more entertaining   
   >than contraception,   
   >and will always lead,   
   >on the six o'clock news...   
   >   
   > - from "Malthusian Blues"   
      
   Once there was a time, up on in the Middle   
   Ages when the rats were in the service of the world   
   and carried some sort of a thing within a thing.   
      
   They did it, naturally, out of their heartless-hearts.   
      
   Some great-minds think alike like religion is doing people   
   a great service by thinning the masses of a cancer   
   spreading across the face of the world.   
      
   Others may say there is only the world and self.   
   That's all there is folks, no folks, just self/other.   
      
   Taoism might suggest a Block is there.   
   Uncarved. Or a Tree. Unhewn.   
      
   Yet another passage may be passed through,   
   or, along the Way, that shows how there isn't One   
   and Only One, Block, Tree, etc.   
      
   Rather, what ever-way one chooses   
   to see the world, might have some use and   
   in some other situations, not so much.   
      
   - various points may and can be made by pointing   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)