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   From: absfg_wilson@yahoo.com   
      
   On 10/16/2016 6:21 AM, noname wrote:   
   > Tang Huyen  wrote:   
   >> On 10/15/2016 10:08 AM, noname wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> Siddhis are not done by the individual through some   
   >>> power the individual has accumulated, they are   
   >>> not-done by the individual and done by the world   
   >>> because it is necessary.  It's a fine line, and easy to   
   >>> think that what one's egoic self demands is what is   
   >>> necessary.   
   >>   
   >> This is my line of reasoning about the great mass murderers   
   >> being of some service to humanity. As I often say, great mass   
   >> murderers like Stalin, Mao, Hitler, and recently, Pol Pot, are   
   >> good, perhaps involuntarily, in helping to keep human   
   >> population within earthly sustainability. Such population   
   >> reduction is natural amongst some animals, like lemmings.   
   >>   
   >> To borrow from your felicitous wording: yuge mass murder to   
   >> the scale of the above tyrants is not done only by said   
   >> individuals through some powers the individuals have   
   >> accumulated (though that is true), it is not-done by the   
   >> individuals and done by the world because it is necessary.   
   >> Such individuals are evil, but not entirely evil, as they   
   >> contribute some good to humanity, in the above purview.   
   >>   
   >> Tang Huyen   
   >>   
   >   
   > Remember the story of the farmer's horse, how everyone said "oh, this is   
   > bad!" when it ran away, how they thought it was "wonderful, your horse is   
   > back, and it brought a mare!", and all the rest of that story, which I   
   > assume all reading here are aware of.  Its point was what the farmer said   
   > whenever his neighbors concluded that fortune was done with him.  We'll   
   > see.   
   >   
   > Trump is feeling his oats, because he obtained wealth through navigating   
   > the worlds placed before him; in that sense his wealth came from virtue.   
   > It is when leaders begin to deify themselves, thinking their power came   
   > from something they made, forgetting that it was not themselves who placed   
   > the opportunities before them, that problems begin.   
   >   
   > The problem grows worse when power is passed down to children.  Even though   
   > daddy may have gained his wealth from virtue, the children cannot but   
   > realize that their own wealth was inherited.  When they begin to consider   
   > it their just reward for nothing, you have created a line between Nobility   
   > and paupers.   
   >   
   > Trump could win the election in a landslide.  The only thing he would have   
   > to do is promise a 100% tax on inheritance, all inheritance large or small.   
   >  A leader who knows where his power comes from also knows that it is freely   
   > available to his children who deserve it, and will only set the ones who do   
   > not on a path of dissolution, whether it is open and above-board, or hidden   
   > in boardrooms.   
   >   
   > Of course the rich will find ways to pass their wealth to those they wish,   
   > but it would win him the election.   
   >   
   > What you spoke of, mass murders committed by mass murderers?  Did they make   
   > the opportunity for that by themselves, or is it something that the world   
   > saw as necessary, like a horse running away?   
   >   
   > I have no facts at my disposal, none.  I could collect some, if there was   
   > some true source for them, and then the facts could be jerry-rigged to look   
   > however someone wanted them to look.   
      
   In a perfect world, any idea might work.   
      
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