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   "Tang Huyen"  wrote in message   
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   > On 10/16/2016 6:22 AM, dagnabit wrote:   
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   > > it's just like the old sedona method by lester levinson. when a   
   > > feeling arises just observe it and let it go. most dwell on the   
   > > feeling and quickly add a storyline to it which not only bolsters   
   > > and extends the feeling, it can cause more of the same to keep   
   > > occurring. as an example, when a feeling of fear arises try   
   > > not to add a storyline concerning something that may be feared.   
   > > feelings of fear have automatic triggering initializations from   
   > > the subconscious due to ingrained safety and security   
   > > addictions and those triggers can eventually be eliminated,   
   > > or greatly reduced, by not adding storyline to the arising   
   > > feelings.   
   > >   
   > > most feelings that arise are fear based anyway. hate, anger,   
   > > guilt, and even desire are often times fear based so just observe   
   > > feelings that arise without voluntarily adding mental constructs   
   > > and eventually fear based feelings will fade away.   
   > >   
   > > the only other feelings besides strictly fear based ones are   
   > > feelings of love, compassion or affection, and at times these can   
   > > also be fear based so in order to completely dismantle the   
   > > subconscious triggering mechanism even feelings of love which   
   > > are fear based might need to be eliminated too.   
   >   
   > The above jives with the Buddha's teaching. To him, bodily   
   > suffering cannot be avoided, but the saint does not lay   
   > mental suffering on top of it.   
      
   but even bodily suffering and pain can be ignored too.   
   in kriya yoga they talk of going up into the spine when   
   body pains bother you and there are also stories of many   
   yogis who voluntarily inflict pain upon themselves and   
   don't feel it. in recent times, prior to his passing,  dr.   
   david hawkins had several surgeries and voluntarily   
   skipped the anesthesia, and if they really did to christ   
   what the stories say he had to be ignoring the pain of   
   being crucified.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)