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   From: kittyp2060@hotmail.com   
      
   "Tang Huyen"  wrote in message   
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   > On 10/15/2016 10:08 AM, noname wrote:   
   >   
   > > Siddhis are not done by the individual through some   
   > > power the individual has accumulated, they are   
   > > not-done by the individual and done by the world   
   > > because it is necessary.  It's a fine line, and easy to   
   > > think that what one's egoic self demands is what is   
   > > necessary.   
   >   
   > This is my line of reasoning about the great mass murderers   
   > being of some service to humanity. As I often say, great mass   
   > murderers like Stalin, Mao, Hitler, and recently, Pol Pot, are   
   > good, perhaps involuntarily, in helping to keep human   
   > population within earthly sustainability. Such population   
   > reduction is natural amongst some animals, like lemmings.   
   >   
   > To borrow from your felicitous wording: yuge mass murder to   
   > the scale of the above tyrants is not done only by said   
   > individuals through some powers the individuals have   
   > accumulated (though that is true), it is not-done by the   
   > individuals and done by the world because it is necessary.   
   > Such individuals are evil, but not entirely evil, as they   
   > contribute some good to humanity, in the above purview.   
   >   
   > Tang Huyen   
      
   I think I can see what you're saying. It's been my observation that people   
   who cause suffering are often unaware that they are committing acts that are   
   considered evil.  An example on the micro level, is that it isn't unusual   
   for convicted pedophiles to say they actually love children. On a larger   
   scale, Stalin,et.al. did what they did for reasons that made total sense to   
   them. Perhaps it is easier for us to wrap our heads around those kinds of   
   acts against humanity by total condemnation.  If we don't, it looks like   
   there is condoning of the behaviors - but more importantly, it also means we   
   probably feel better about ourselves. If we look too closely at ourselves,   
   we might see the seeds of it within ourselves. I of course don't know this,   
   and I sure can't make generalizations - but find it interesting that so many   
   people don't appear to want to take a peek at themselves.   
      
   Kitty   
      
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