XPost: alt.philosophy.taoism, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.zen
From: invalid@invalid.invalid
Kitty P wrote:
> "noname" wrote in message news:nu0kob$qoe$8@dont-email.me...
>>
>> Wilson wrote:
>>> On 10/16/2016 6:21 AM, noname wrote:
>>>> Tang Huyen wrote:
>>>>> On 10/15/2016 10:08 AM, noname wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Siddhis are not done by the individual through some
>>>>>> power the individual has accumulated, they are
>>>>>> not-done by the individual and done by the world
>>>>>> because it is necessary. It's a fine line, and easy to
>>>>>> think that what one's egoic self demands is what is
>>>>>> necessary.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is my line of reasoning about the great mass murderers
>>>>> being of some service to humanity. As I often say, great mass
>>>>> murderers like Stalin, Mao, Hitler, and recently, Pol Pot, are
>>>>> good, perhaps involuntarily, in helping to keep human
>>>>> population within earthly sustainability. Such population
>>>>> reduction is natural amongst some animals, like lemmings.
>>>>>
>>>>> To borrow from your felicitous wording: yuge mass murder to
>>>>> the scale of the above tyrants is not done only by said
>>>>> individuals through some powers the individuals have
>>>>> accumulated (though that is true), it is not-done by the
>>>>> individuals and done by the world because it is necessary.
>>>>> Such individuals are evil, but not entirely evil, as they
>>>>> contribute some good to humanity, in the above purview.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tang Huyen
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Remember the story of the farmer's horse, how everyone said "oh, this
>>>> is
>>>> bad!" when it ran away, how they thought it was "wonderful, your horse
>>>> is
>>>> back, and it brought a mare!", and all the rest of that story, which I
>>>> assume all reading here are aware of. Its point was what the farmer
>>>> said
>>>> whenever his neighbors concluded that fortune was done with him. We'll
>>>> see.
>>>>
>>>> Trump is feeling his oats, because he obtained wealth through
>>>> navigating
>>>> the worlds placed before him; in that sense his wealth came from
>>>> virtue.
>>>> It is when leaders begin to deify themselves, thinking their power came
>>>> from something they made, forgetting that it was not themselves who
>>>> placed
>>>> the opportunities before them, that problems begin.
>>>>
>>>> The problem grows worse when power is passed down to children. Even
>>>> though
>>>> daddy may have gained his wealth from virtue, the children cannot but
>>>> realize that their own wealth was inherited. When they begin to
>>>> consider
>>>> it their just reward for nothing, you have created a line between
>>>> Nobility
>>>> and paupers.
>>>>
>>>> Trump could win the election in a landslide. The only thing he would
>>>> have
>>>> to do is promise a 100% tax on inheritance, all inheritance large or
>>>> small.
>>>> A leader who knows where his power comes from also knows that it is
>>>> freely
>>>> available to his children who deserve it, and will only set the ones
>>>> who do
>>>> not on a path of dissolution, whether it is open and above-board, or
>>>> hidden
>>>> in boardrooms.
>>>>
>>>> Of course the rich will find ways to pass their wealth to those they
>>>> wish,
>>>> but it would win him the election.
>>>>
>>>> What you spoke of, mass murders committed by mass murderers? Did they
>>>> make
>>>> the opportunity for that by themselves, or is it something that the
>>>> world
>>>> saw as necessary, like a horse running away?
>>>>
>>>> I have no facts at my disposal, none. I could collect some, if there
>>>> was
>>>> some true source for them, and then the facts could be jerry-rigged to
>>>> look
>>>> however someone wanted them to look.
>>>
>>> In a perfect world, any idea might work.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I claim that it is a perfect world. It constantly delivers what the
>> voters
>> of the cosmos need to counter their own flaws. The cure is simple,
>> universal awakening. The mechanics of that are not so simple, it's hard
>> enough just to awaken oneself, let-alone others.
>>
>> email: noname.1234567.abcdef@gmail.com
>
> Do you believe that you are awakened?
>
>
>
No, I try not to believe anything.
I know that for the past... dunno, maybe 18 months, my perceptions of
things have been much altered from what they were before. If I could pin
that down to a single minute, or second, perhaps that would be "an
awakening" event, or maybe that would merely mark the acceleration of my
descent into insanity. I know that desire no longer runs me like a puppet.
I know that I am awake to a different level of things that was never clear
to me before. I can honestly say that I have "awakened", in some sense
that may have nothing whatsoever in common with whatever you think of as
"awakening".
I know that the past year alone has run me through twelve kinds of hell,
but it did not feel like hell so much as simply what was happening. I am
the same now as I have always been, though without the confusion inherent
in having a self-contradictory worldview.
To describe the way I see things now is very difficult. I've concluded
that it isn't possible to just sit down and write a description of the
world that I see now. On the other hand in any conversation here some of
it leaks out, perhaps some grain of truth makes its way to the reader.
That's about the best I can do.
One of the things I do believe is that the best one can do is simply the
best one can do.
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