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From: kittyp2060@hotmail.com
"noname" wrote in message news:nu32as$3aj$3@dont-email.me...
>
> Kitty P wrote:
> > "noname" wrote in message news:nu0kob$qoe$8@dont-email.me...
> >>
> >> Wilson wrote:
> >>> On 10/16/2016 6:21 AM, noname wrote:
> >>>> Tang Huyen wrote:
> >>>>> On 10/15/2016 10:08 AM, noname wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Siddhis are not done by the individual through some
> >>>>>> power the individual has accumulated, they are
> >>>>>> not-done by the individual and done by the world
> >>>>>> because it is necessary. It's a fine line, and easy to
> >>>>>> think that what one's egoic self demands is what is
> >>>>>> necessary.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This is my line of reasoning about the great mass murderers
> >>>>> being of some service to humanity. As I often say, great mass
> >>>>> murderers like Stalin, Mao, Hitler, and recently, Pol Pot, are
> >>>>> good, perhaps involuntarily, in helping to keep human
> >>>>> population within earthly sustainability. Such population
> >>>>> reduction is natural amongst some animals, like lemmings.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> To borrow from your felicitous wording: yuge mass murder to
> >>>>> the scale of the above tyrants is not done only by said
> >>>>> individuals through some powers the individuals have
> >>>>> accumulated (though that is true), it is not-done by the
> >>>>> individuals and done by the world because it is necessary.
> >>>>> Such individuals are evil, but not entirely evil, as they
> >>>>> contribute some good to humanity, in the above purview.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Tang Huyen
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Remember the story of the farmer's horse, how everyone said "oh, this
> >>>> is
> >>>> bad!" when it ran away, how they thought it was "wonderful, your
> >>>> horse
> >>>> is
> >>>> back, and it brought a mare!", and all the rest of that story, which
> >>>> I
> >>>> assume all reading here are aware of. Its point was what the farmer
> >>>> said
> >>>> whenever his neighbors concluded that fortune was done with him.
> >>>> We'll
> >>>> see.
> >>>>
> >>>> Trump is feeling his oats, because he obtained wealth through
> >>>> navigating
> >>>> the worlds placed before him; in that sense his wealth came from
> >>>> virtue.
> >>>> It is when leaders begin to deify themselves, thinking their power
> >>>> came
> >>>> from something they made, forgetting that it was not themselves who
> >>>> placed
> >>>> the opportunities before them, that problems begin.
> >>>>
> >>>> The problem grows worse when power is passed down to children. Even
> >>>> though
> >>>> daddy may have gained his wealth from virtue, the children cannot but
> >>>> realize that their own wealth was inherited. When they begin to
> >>>> consider
> >>>> it their just reward for nothing, you have created a line between
> >>>> Nobility
> >>>> and paupers.
> >>>>
> >>>> Trump could win the election in a landslide. The only thing he would
> >>>> have
> >>>> to do is promise a 100% tax on inheritance, all inheritance large or
> >>>> small.
> >>>> A leader who knows where his power comes from also knows that it is
> >>>> freely
> >>>> available to his children who deserve it, and will only set the ones
> >>>> who do
> >>>> not on a path of dissolution, whether it is open and above-board, or
> >>>> hidden
> >>>> in boardrooms.
> >>>>
> >>>> Of course the rich will find ways to pass their wealth to those they
> >>>> wish,
> >>>> but it would win him the election.
> >>>>
> >>>> What you spoke of, mass murders committed by mass murderers? Did
> >>>> they
> >>>> make
> >>>> the opportunity for that by themselves, or is it something that the
> >>>> world
> >>>> saw as necessary, like a horse running away?
> >>>>
> >>>> I have no facts at my disposal, none. I could collect some, if there
> >>>> was
> >>>> some true source for them, and then the facts could be jerry-rigged
> >>>> to
> >>>> look
> >>>> however someone wanted them to look.
> >>>
> >>> In a perfect world, any idea might work.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> I claim that it is a perfect world. It constantly delivers what the
> >> voters
> >> of the cosmos need to counter their own flaws. The cure is simple,
> >> universal awakening. The mechanics of that are not so simple, it's
> >> hard
> >> enough just to awaken oneself, let-alone others.
> >>
> >> email: noname.1234567.abcdef@gmail.com
> >
> > Do you believe that you are awakened?
> >
> >
> >
>
> No, I try not to believe anything.
>
> I know that for the past... dunno, maybe 18 months, my perceptions of
> things have been much altered from what they were before. If I could pin
> that down to a single minute, or second, perhaps that would be "an
> awakening" event, or maybe that would merely mark the acceleration of my
> descent into insanity. I know that desire no longer runs me like a
> puppet.
> I know that I am awake to a different level of things that was never
> clear
> to me before. I can honestly say that I have "awakened", in some sense
> that may have nothing whatsoever in common with whatever you think of as
> "awakening".
>
> I know that the past year alone has run me through twelve kinds of hell,
> but it did not feel like hell so much as simply what was happening. I am
> the same now as I have always been, though without the confusion inherent
> in having a self-contradictory worldview.
>
> To describe the way I see things now is very difficult. I've concluded
> that it isn't possible to just sit down and write a description of the
> world that I see now. On the other hand in any conversation here some of
> it leaks out, perhaps some grain of truth makes its way to the reader.
> That's about the best I can do.
>
> One of the things I do believe is that the best one can do is simply the
> best one can do.
>
> email: noname.1234567.abcdef@gmail.com
That really is an impressive description.
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