XPost: alt.philosophy.taoism, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.zen   
   From: tanghuyen@gmail.com   
      
   On 10/26/2016 5:44 AM, {:-]))) wrote:   
      
   > The Sage slices thru life as if it were water   
   > or a bunch of bull. Dance moves of the Sage are unabashed.   
   >   
   > Hence, in the texts, the contexts emerge reflecting   
   > bouncing and singing as if there were no tomorrow.   
   >   
   > When in the thick of things, the Sage is seen by those who   
   > have eyes to see thru the thickets, standing as a tree,   
   > perhaps gnarly, with bugs crawling up a sleeve.   
   > Perfectly still at times just hanging out.   
   >   
   > Being gnarly, the Sage is left alone, untouched   
   > appearing useless, and looms large. The people picnic   
   > under all the branches that hang out and extend   
   > so far as to cover the entire world as if   
   > such an Idea were to be possible.   
   >   
   > Hanging out with the people, the Sage has   
   > no mind nor heart to speak of other than the people's.   
   > Hence the Sage is invisible, when letting it all hang out.   
   > And when something gets done, the people think,   
   > that is so cool, we did it all by ourselves.   
   >   
   > The Sage is as the rain or the sunshine falling on all   
   > without wishing nor attempting to be benevolent,   
   > treating people as the grass or straw or dogs   
   > without regard for how high or low all are.   
   >   
   > At times misconstrued, the Sage doesn't mind.   
   > It is not in one's heart to care about petty things.   
   >   
   > Yet, at the same time, everything matters, down to   
   > the least of the least and all things are considered   
   > with compassion, as such is a natural practice,   
   > authentic, genuine, perfectly manifested   
   > in the Sage for no special reason.   
   >   
   > All of those Ideas are what makes a sage the Sage,   
   > and such a One is described reluctantly as all get out.   
   >   
   > - in the texts   
      
   Overall, I agree with what you, JayLo, say, though firstly   
   I claim no embodiment of such an exalted state and   
   status, and secondly to me it is quite ideal and scarcely   
   exemplified in real life, even of the masters, and obviously   
   enough I am merely extrapolating regarding the masters   
   since I don't know any first hand, and even if I did, I would   
   not be able to tell what goes on in them anyway.   
      
   Theoretically, a sage has an empty mind, of which nothing   
   can be seen from the outside, even by the best experts of   
   mind-reading. So, if one wants to test a sage, one can try   
   to read his or her mind, provided that one commands the   
   skill of mind-reading, and if one finds anything, he or she   
   would not be a sage. All this is pure theory to me, as I am   
   nowhere near there, in mind-reading as well as in actual   
   sagehood.   
      
   To return to what you say: <> I hope that you speak from experience.   
      
   Tang Huyen   
      
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